People bashing

[sYc]

From time to time, we here at the sYc get a request(s) to delete a certain thread and/or post. Most times it concerns a personal attack on another board member. We hate them as much, or maybe more, then other viewers. But, we have to watch how we handle these requests, because it could give the impression that we were taking sides, and often times, simply adds fuel to the fire.

But, it does need to stop. Why? Because, if we (and I say we) continue bashing each other, we will destroy the very hobby we all say we love. I am not talking about car bashing. As much as it hurts when it is your car, that is part of it. A show does not go by that some "expert" has something negative to say about one of my cars. But as a friend told me not long ago, quoting his father,"forget the one negative and focus on the 100 positives". How true. I am talking about an attack on the person, such as his business, his reputation or his integrety. This should not be done in public, unless for the isolated cases of out and out fraud. Most members on this board are successful businessmen, who make numerous business deals every day, with some not going the way we think they should. Right or wrong, that is part of life (and business). And, when this happens, we move on. We need to do the same with fellow board members. If not, here is what will happen. Instead of one big group, getting along, we will have several little groups, all thinking they are right. And after awhile, the groups will began avoiding each other, going as far as not attending such and such shows if whats his name is there. Once this begins, many of the supercars will disappear from the publics view. And, forgotten. Who loses? ALL of us. We are a small group, whose very existence depends on what we do as a group. We can continue to work together to keep these cars at the top of the muscle car world, or we can fight and self destruct. How can I perdict this? Simple, look at the Corvette world the last 25 years. Once they were considered the ulitmate musclecar, and had one huge show (Bloomington), which was second to none. All other shows were compared to that show. Then came the infighting, or politics as some call it. Who had the best, rarest, most correct etc. They got caught up in the fake, clone, restamp and deals gone sour issues (some in court). That is were some of the new money in our hobby is coming from, Vette owners tired of the games. Yes, I know all of this happens, but how we deal with it what is important. We can either turn the other cheek when something does not go our way and focus on the postives, or we can let it get to us, to the point of taking the fun out of owning a supercar. We can not elimenate all of the negative posts, after all, some of our board members are putting their lives on the line to defend the right of "free speech". But, if the majority of us who really do love this hobby decide to keep it "above board", that is a start. And for the others, simply ignore, they will soon vanish, as it takes 2 to fight. Thanks for listening.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm down with that view, I'll even shake Stefano's hand when I finally meet him [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Tom,
Well said. This is a great forum to hash out the particulars of the Super Car Hobby, but personal attacks justified or not should not be tolerated at all, that way you don't have to worry about which side your on.

Marlin,
In my family/culture it is a custom to plant a big wet juicy kiss on the individual you are greeting..... I guess the handshake and a Rolling Rock will do [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

[hvychev]

Stefano I never got a kiss when I met you......Just a cigar ash droped on me!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

I'll owe ya.

[MotownMadman]

I hear Stefano always pays his debts!
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[Belair62]

I also agree Tom. We should all pretend we are married to each other..this way we will hardly ever talk !! Seriously...this isn't the place for personal stuff. I also made a new year resolution to be more serious and not goof off on this site as much...but when Stefano starts planting wet juicy kisses,how am I supposed to leave that alone ?

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

SYC,I agree 100% with you on your post.And also life is too short anyway to have these type of conflicts.The hobby to me is just so I can enjoy all the nice cars and hav FUN,and in my book allthe cars are nice to me it doesent matter if it is a $400,000.00 or a 40,00.00 dollar car.I think most of the people that come to this site are pretty nice people and have helped me out a lot on the numerous questions I have asked about different things.I feel that if someone has a legitimate problem with an individual,and you have some evidence to back it up that is one thing.Something like that could help others BEWARE especially if someone is a rip off artist.But even something like that should be monitered and not let it get out of hand.

Bobby

[SS427]

Tom,
Very well said albeit a little overdue. As a guest and non-supercar owner, I must admit that I am a little nervous posting on here from time to time due to the acceptence level and bashing that takes place by some people. I am not a big business owner, don't own 1/2 million dollar home, and own 3 Impalas [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif[/img] but I feel that not only can I bring a little to the hobby but more importantly, I have gained a wealth of information from this site. Today being no acception receiving invaluable transmission documentation from Joel Bruno. That is what this hobby is all about, helping each other out. I have not only gained tons of information and made some great friends but also gained several new restoration customers. At least one member has introduced me to several extremely rare finds and hopefully he did so in part because I took the time to help him with some restoration questions off line after he got nowhere from what I felt was due to them being non "supercar" related. Even after asking for help several times from some sYc members via e-mail, he got responses. Anything to do with Chevrolet questions are related as far as I am concerned.

I met several sYc people at VF this year. Most were nothing like I had expected and treated me as an equal, some were still cold but that is called nature and different personality. For the most part, they were just like me. I would hope I would not be treated differently if I owned a Supercar. There are some members on here that are close personal friends of mine who have not always made a good first impression but are super people, they just haven't figured out how to type it. Thank God I did not blow them off based on first impressions!

The point I am trying to make and Tom pointed out, we are all here for the same reason, out of love for cars. God help us all if this group goes the way of some of the Corvette groups. I got my restoration start with Corvettes and I never want to look back.
Rick

[55chevy]

Well spoken. I'm not sure who or what exactly fueled this post but I agree. Our love for these rare unique Muscle Cars is something we all have in common reguardless of who we are or what we do. There is no room for negativity in what is supposed to be and is a fun hobby. We all have this one thing in common whether we own 10 Super Cars or have 10 dreams a night of someday owning one. That said I think there needs to be a new rule. With every post you need to attach a Super Car pic. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]