69 copo

[wrench]

Have not looked at it yet but found a first week of Nov. 69 Camaro that has X-44 on what looks to be an unaltered cowl tag. Guy sent me pics and it has power disc brakes, cowl hood and a BB heater box. Been sitting for 15 years. Any chance this could be a COPO? I am going to look but need information on what to look for. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

[William]

Yes, good chance. Things to check out:

C BE axle code, stamped on front of rh axle tube
built with ZL2, not just the hood
curved-neck 4 core radiator
BB motor mount brackets

[R68GTO]

Sent you a PM

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

...found a first week of Nov. 69 Camaro that has X-44

Does that mean it was Body Date Nov. of 1969
or
69 Camaro - Nov. 1968 Body Date

Does the VIN predate this one = N578xxx

My study data is showing COPO production basically from Jan 69 - Oct 69.
Either way November is a bit Early - or a bit Late.

The earliest cars are suggested to mostly have all been Yenko Cars. And that would also include 9737 Sports Car Package on the car - to possibly verify also.

Definitely go inspect car regardless - these rules of thumb should probably always have room for updates and evidence revisions.

I compiled a whole list of specifics to check.
Would you like me to share it here ?
Its right much info.

[wrench]

First week nov 1969 body numbers reset on cowl tag. Some copo's were built in nov 69. Vin starts with 70

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

That definitely sounds better than the Nov 1968 alternative !

I think you are definitely onto something.
Good Luck !

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Chassis:
Should have power front discs [racers would delete them sometimes]

COPO-specific 12 bolt posi BE code axle.

HD rear five-leaf springs

All had dual exhausts and should have the hanger plate tack-welded to the LH rear frame rail.
2" by 5" plate with two threaded holes in it welded to the drivers side of the rear frame rail right outboard of the shock.


Body:
All had the ducted hood with factory wiring through hole above fuse box junction.

Cowl Induction relay on the firewall, up and to the right of the heater box. shiny silver relay

Cowl induction throttle arm

Single 3/8" Fuel line - no return line and the retaining clips should have NO provision for a return line.


Residual pressure valve in the brake line on the sub frame under the drivers seat.

4-speed must have Muncie-specific speedo cable routing.

Length of the clutch Z-bar. 9-1/2" is Big Block. 9" is small block, or I6.

No CID badging holes on front fenders by marker lights

Camaro on Fenders , Blue Bowtie in Grille and on Rear Body Panel

Standard grill

If the car has a tach, should be 7k Total with 6k Redline

Cooling:
HD radiator with 90º upper hose connection.
Curved Outlet Top Driver side

BigBlock Heater Core Cover - outlets in middle of Box

Big Block motor mount perches

Big block springs in the front and rear.


COPO option 9737 Sport Car Pkg
140 mph Speedo
Center Dash Fuel Gauge
13/16" front sway bar
15" wheels - usually Rally
*after May 69 - In Dash Tacho

COPO option 9511 -
Special HD gears in Special HD housing = 4.56 and 4.88
Sometimes supplied inside of a BE Axle as an assembly line substitute .
I didn't record the proposed proper codes for this - sorry
- from the shoulder - maybe BT and BX ?

[R68GTO]

Originally Posted by wrench

First week nov 1969 body numbers reset on cowl tag. Some copo's were built in nov 69. Vin starts with 70

FWIW, my 09D COPO has a VIN of N690***.

[1971ls6]

Dont forget no chrome around headlights , taillight verticle chrome, pedals, wheel lips, gills, drip rail, unless it’s a double Copo 9737.

[bbbentley]

Som of a gun! Cool beans! Also take along your vin list of COPO,Yenko, ZL1 s. Look for exhaust plate left rear frame rail, 427 crayon marked on inner front fender extensions. Single fuel line. Take lots of pics of firewall area and study or post here. Upper radiator shroud bracket.