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Default 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

IF A BLOCK HAS BEEN DECKED BUT STILL HAS THE VIN BY THE OIL FILTER DOES THAT COUNT AS THE ORIGINAL ENGINE EVEN THOUGH THE DECK HAS BEEN CUT ?
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

I would say it is 50% better than no #'s at all. And the Vin # being the most important of the two. JMO
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Default Re: 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

depending on the type of car (mopar, chevy), I would have to see how the stamp compares with the one on the trans. I think they should look similar, but for now I am not 100% sure if there are exceptions. If they are completely different then I would make sure you know why they are different before buying. I personally get nervous when the matching numbers trans is missing, as it provides no comparision.
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Default Re: 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

Isn't there a way of 'seeing' the numbers on a decked block by magnetic means. I heard this years ago and wonder if it's true or an urban myth. It seems to me that law enforcement agencies could pull up serial numbers from guns and blocks that had been filed or ground off.
The stamping disturbs the metal molecules in the areas around and under the actual stamp, so even though a layer of metal has been removed, the disturbed area still exists, and can be read with some means.
Any opinions or knowledge on this?
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Default Re: 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

I would be interested in this as well. My block was decked in 1974. It is the original 327 out of my 67 Nova SS. Are there any other vins or stampings on the block?

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There are a few methods to do this. Magnaflux is what I think you are talking about. There is also the acid approach. However I think you only get one shot with that one. Acid kits are available for about $125 with more stuff than you need. Might make sense to contact local law enforcement to see if the have a list of contractor that do that type of work and has the mag kit.

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Default Re: 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

About 15 years ago, a guy from the V.I.B.(Vehicle Investigations Section) at the Illinois State Police we tow for out of Elgin, showed me how to use a metal shafted, cotton ball style, shoe polish applicator dipped in battery acid, and a battery charger to lift up decked numbers on a "440" cast 1968 396/375 short block I had.

The best thing about doing it this way, are that the numbers are still legible today, and according to his research, the engine is out of a Camaro delivered to Nickey Chevrolet on June 2nd,1968, my 12th Birthday!

It could have been a take out of a 427 converted car. I tried looking for the car buy Vin. but never found it.

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Default Re: 1970 Z28 VIN ON BLOCK

On 70's Z28 the VIN# was only stamped by the Oil Filter, engine code was on the deck.And yes that would count as original.
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Rick:

Actually, all Van Nuys cars appear to have been VIN stamped on the pad. Also, I have seen some Norwood cars that are pad stamped. I had one 1972 that's pad stamped and was just resold on ebay this week. I don't think there are any absolutes with these cars. JMHO, Ed
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My 70, VN built, 03C, had the VIN stamped on the pad.
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