New Generation of Motion Camaros - What Happened?

[markjohnson]

Just kinda curious about what happened with the new generation of Motion Camaros that were going to go into production. I remember the red one rolling across the auction block at B-J a couple of years ago and everybody was expecting to see several more similar ones popping up but I've never seen anymore at all besides the initial red one. What happened?

[motionwannabe]

i think those are strictly a "MADE TO ORDER" car. I'm not positive on that but, with the price and the economy im sure these things arent being rapidly produced

[Born30YrsLate]

Another branch on the Motion Performance Tree!... 2010 Motion Camaro

[x Baldwin Motion]

Haven't seen too many of these?

[AutoInsane]

Motion should make a LS7 version of the 5th Gen Camaro. They would sell a lot!!

The gaudy pro street cars they are trying to over-charge for look terrible....

[Atuckman]

take a look at officialbaldwinmotion.com/ad.htm
looks like they are doing a limited run

[427TJ]

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Just kinda curious about what happened with the new generation of Motion Camaros that were going to go into production. I remember the red one rolling across the auction block at B-J a couple of years ago and everybody was expecting to see several more similar ones popping up but I've never seen anymore at all besides the initial red one. What happened?

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They cost too much and don't look like the originals.

Joe Sixpack could easily buy one (finance one) in 1967-73 but Joe Sixpack's earnings have remained essentially stagnant since the early 1980s while prices have slowly crept upward. Add to that the rise of the millionaire car collector and Joe Sixpack's old B-M (and just "M") 427/454 (etc.) conversion cars became Faberge Eggs overnight as their legend, and monetary value, exploded.

I understand the hope of the Motion guys that they could profit off of the recent money-mania in the collector car scene but they seem to have missed their mark. Timing could be a factor too as the easy/free credit economy collapsed. Maybe four years ago Joe Sixpack could borrow on his house to buy a new Motion Camaro but not anymore. Not for a while anyway, until easy credit returns.

Joe Sixpack made the B-M cars famous 40 years ago and these new cars just don't seem to electrify people the same way. Collector/investors have made almost everything that is desireable virtually unaffordable to the rest of us and without easy credit we can't even mortgage our homes anymore to buy toys we can't really afford.

It seems to me that the new Motion cars aimed right past the Joe Sixpacks (who can barely afford a new Camaro) and right at the car collector/investor demographic. So far it seems that the car collector/investor demographic has not responded, at least not in the numbers the builders may have hoped for. Maybe we have to wait another 40 years and see?

[dreemz]

Actually, a full on Phase III SS427 car was quite expensive back in the day, depending on how it was set up. These cars were all custom ordered and were likely the most expensive muscle cars ever built. Joels clients came from around the world and even included royalty. Marty will discuss alot about this in the new book. The new car pricing is probably not that far off in todays dollars.

[427TJ]

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Actually, a full on Phase III SS427 car was quite expensive back in the day, depending on how it was set up. These cars were all custom ordered and were likely the most expensive muscle cars ever built. Joels clients came from around the world and even included royalty. Marty will discuss alot about this in the new book. The new car pricing is probably not that far off in todays dollars.

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True, but Joe Oldham wasn't royalty (sorry, Mr. Oldham!), nor were the street racers and local gear-heads Like our JoeG who patronized Motion for conversion work. Yes the full B-M conversion cars were more expensive than factory L78s and L89s (etc.) but not as comparitively expensive as the new-build Motion cars are vs. the current crop of new muscle, especially when compared to the diminished purchasing power of today's working stiff. That was my point. One of them anyway. A new Camaro with all the high-perf options is in the 50K range and the new 2010 Motion Camaros add 50K to that. Even if they are 'only' 100K I don't know many 'regular guys' who have 100K (plus) to spend on a new Motion Camaro (let alone 50K-plus for a loaded 2010 Camaro SS). 169K to start talking about buying a new-build '69 Motion Camaro is REALLY out of reach of the average working man. So your point is well taken but my point is that today, in 2009, you really DO have to be royalty to afford a new Motion-built vehicle.

I already pre-ordered my copy of Marty's new book on Amazon and I can't wait to see it.

[dreemz]

"Joe Six-Pack could easily buy(finance one)". Not the case for a NEW loaded Phase III SS 427 car at the time. Lots of individuals had some component from Motion Performance on their cars (i.e. the local gear heads and street racers you refer to) but a loaded new car was a totally different story. A member on this site owns a GT Corvette that had a sticker of over 17K. What would that be in comparable dollars? A Lamborghini Miura at the time was 20K. Today a Murcielago goes for 300K plus.