1970 Chevelle buildsheet should be fraud!

[chads454Ls6]

In the april edition of Hemmings motor news on page 396,there is a guy that is advertising 1970 chevelle buildsheets to your specifications. This fellow is out of Rockledge Florida and his name is Jim Clemens. Does anyone know this guy? I wonder how many ls6 coupes and converts he has done that will be all over the place for sale. This is becoming very sad!

[nuch_ss396]

Chad,

When there is so much money in the balance, many less than
worthy people rationalize making fake documentation and/or
transplanting VIN & trim tags. It's just money to them.

They're really no different than the guys selling swamp
land for developments, stock swindling, etc.. Maybe they
are the same guys, just a new swindle.

[JoeG]

It's about time they came out with these buildsheets--I've got a '70 buick that I was thinking of dropping a 454 in and just needed some docs to show it was a 1 off LS6/B.................

[Rainer]

I've said this in another post, but very soon we will see services being offered that will authenticate documents such as build sheets. Try as they may, the fakers just cannot duplicate the composition of paper and ink from 35-40 years ago and slip it by people who have expertise in examining documents. The stained, wrinkled, and "aged" sheets may fool us hobbyists and our untrained eyes, but I suspect today's papers and laser/inkjet inks will stick out like a sore thumb under close observation with the techniques the document examiners use.

All it takes is someone with good knowledge of buildsheet codes and content partnering with some of these professional document examiners, and you've got a worthwhile and profitable side-business. With the prices that today's musclecars are bringing, I'm guessing plenty of people would be willing to spend a couple hundred dollars or so for assurance that a buildsheet was the real deal. And I'm guessing most of the fakers would backpedal if they were told that a buyer wanted to make their deal contingent on professional examination of the buildsheet.

Any takers? There are a few guys on this site that come to mind

[DaJudge]

The company I work for does historical document preservation. They use a marker that detects acid and ph levels in old documents. Every old document that is not preserved properly has acid in it. The point is that when I am looking at a vehicle's documentation I bring one of those markers. You put a small mark on a page or sheet if it turns yellow it has acid in it, if it turns purple it is acid free. The guys tell me that documents from the 90's forward are usually acid free. Just about everything pre 90's has some acidosis (spell check).

The marks disappear in about a half hour, this is a useful tool. If a buildsheet is pulled out of the car when new and inserted in an acid free protector then that would be the exception to the rule, but how often has that been done? I will get the name and company that makes these pens and post on Monday.

[chevelleheart]

MIke , That would be great. Chad there's also a guy om ebay advertising all the time called "69posi" or something like that and he advertises all the time. says there for "DISPLAY PURPOSES ONLY"........hey lets not kid ourselves.He advertises that he can age them for you, fool the experts etc etc for $1100 US.

[COPO427]

I worked in the GM print area when I started working for GM and one of the forms I printed were build sheets.

[firstgenaddict]

Oh boy there is gonna be a run on 6250 BPI tapes created on 3420 mainframe tape drives and Telex impact printers... better check who's buying the stuff on ebay...

[3macs1]

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I worked in the GM print area when I started working for GM and one of the forms I printed were build sheets on XXX brand XXX printers (XXX denotes printer brand and type of printer). All print files were created on 6250 BPI tapes created on 3420 mainframe tape drives (which we still have in storage) then they were brought to me to print. My job was to make sure the correct font print band was used and that the 1st line of the print record started in the correct place on the form and that the RPO codes were lined up in their respective boxes. We printed everything for GM including Cheques. I didn't specify the printer information for the obvious reasons.

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I'm confused Were these for US or canadian cars?? I have not seen a US style build sheet in a canadian car other than that piece of strip hog ringed to the under side of the seat.

[55chevy]

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It's about time they came out with these buildsheets--I've got a '70 buick that I was thinking of dropping a 454 in and just needed some docs to show it was a 1 off LS6/B.................

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Joe you could probably get a million bucks for that