COPO Camaro block VIN stamp

**William** · #1 06-26-2002, 01:39 PM

No it doesn't but it does raise questions about the integrity of the owner. Might make one wonder what else was fudged. The ONLY reason people re-stamp engines is to create the impression of originality. And everyone believes OE engine cars are also more valuable...

Brings to mind the funny/embarassing incident at last years Supercar show.

We did a ZL1 many years ago; the replacement bare block sat untouched for months. Re-stamping it was never considered.

**William** · #2 08-12-2002, 01:17 AM

It's been my belief that the partial VIN stamp on an MN or MO block would be at the oil filter location. This weekend at SC-Joliet there was a car presenting as a COPO, 05E build with the VIN stamp on top. Now I've heard of another at the RM auction this weekend in MI. This is an 07A car with a January engine, stamped on top.

I've never seen one known to be gennie stamped like that. VIN stamp has always been by the filter including the T0123MN block I saw this March.

What is the general consensus?

**Stefano** · #3 08-12-2002, 01:57 AM

William,
I have never seen a documented /verified 1969 COPO Camaro with the vin on the pad either.

What is the position of the GRG crew.

How about some more info on the two COPOs you mentioned for those of us who couldn't attend.

**William** · #4 08-12-2002, 02:17 AM

The CRG is debating this; I do not believe they were stamped on top. But I've only seen a few dozen.

I did not see the RM car but did see the orange COPO? both at Indy and Joliet. At both shows it was in the "Diamond" area. The orange rear wheel wells indicate it is something other than factory-correct resto.

I understand the COPO at the RM auction sold for $72k.

**Mr70** · #5 08-12-2002, 03:18 AM

It was in the "GOLD" class.

**Kurt S** · #6 08-12-2002, 05:33 AM

One correction: The VIN on the RM car was by the oil filter. I crawled under to see it. The VIN on the trans was stamped partly on the trans code.
Very nice car, fathom green. 07A with a T0123MN block! and POP.

I agree with Bill, never seen any 'real' 69 built after Jan with a VIN on the pad.

Kurt

**Stefano** · #7 08-12-2002, 03:47 PM

Just because a block may have been restamped incorrectly doesn't mean that the COPO itself is not the genuine atricle.

**Stefano** · #8 08-18-2002, 05:28 AM

The Hugger COPO is vin N651505 NOR340412 O5E X44. Is the Camaro registered with the site?

Norm reynolds · #9 08-27-2002, 01:09 AM

I know that this is off the beaten path but when did GM put the partal vin and engine code on top
I have a friend that has a 66 vette 327/350
he had it redone a flew years ago I could not find any numbers by the oil filter only up top right side by the heads
he is the original owner and tells me he got the car in late june of 66 but when I did the engine code it comes in as jan of 66 he allso said that the guy that did the car was doing two other vette at the same time and he thinks he has the worng parts When I drove it hard if felt more like a 300 hp than a 350hp The numbers realy look like a restamp of the vin
but I did not have the heart to say any thing
Norm

**COPO** · #10 08-27-2002, 01:21 AM

The VIN on the top front pad would be correct for this vette.

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