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Old 07-02-2010, 03:01 PM
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Default Russo & Steele Faces Lawsuits

You just knew it wasn't a matter of 'if', just a matter of 'when'....from this morning's edition of The Arizona Republic newspaper....

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...russo0702.html
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Old 07-02-2010, 04:13 PM
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The auction cars were uninsured? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

I think that they have to be insured as part of the contract (as stated in the story).

Tri-Rentals claiming an act of god isn't gonna fly... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:18 PM
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wow!

&quot;Phoenix attorney Robert Greer is representing 22 owners, who collectively have about 50 cars. Those vehicles were uninsured. Damaged cars included a 1974 DeTomaso Panterra, 1956 Cadillac and 1979 Mercedes 280 SLC.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Greer said it is a common practice for car collectors to go without insurance because they carefully store their vehicles and rarely drive them.</span>&quot;

huh????

Collector car insurance is CHEAP, that is why we all have it (I thought)

what kind of lame brain does not have AT LEAST collector car insurance on their car(s)? It could be stolen, the water pipes in their garage could leak, LOTS of other reasons to have insurance. Maybe it was just the &quot;flippers&quot; that didn't have insurance ...

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&quot;O'Connor (atty for RS) said that the car owners who have sued are ignoring the consignment contract that requires arbitration for any disputes with Russo. The contract also requires owners to insure their vehi- cles.&quot;

So the consignment contract states the owners have to have insurance, that is the end of that suit IMHO
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I wish Drew the best throughout this whole ordeal!.

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Old 07-02-2010, 05:56 PM
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I don’t think an act of God has anything to do with this claim being excluded, the question of coverage relies on negligence on the part of the tent company or the auction company. Many acts of God are covered by commercial and personal insurance such as tornado, lightning strikes, hail and others.

The question of negligence comes into play here. Is it fesible to erect a tent that can sustain winds of nearly 80 MPH and was the tent company negligent in the way they erected the tent? I really don’t know if they were, I don’t know if you can erect a tent and expect it to resist winds of that force. If a 25 MPH wind blew the tent over and poles damaged cars, they certainly would be negligent, reguardless of it being an act of God.

There may be some alleged negligence due to not securing the tent properly in the soft dirt instead of asphalt like the tents were erected at Barrett Jackson. Now is there negligence on the part of the auction company for not allowing the car owners to evacuate their cars prior to the winds or even remove them after the first round of damage occurred? There could be some negligence for them reguarding these decisions unless their hands were tied by the Fire Marshal

I’ll let you know that we were in the main tent at Barrett Jackson and they were very close to having the same situation happen to them, that tent was rolling like the waves on the high sea. I thought it was going to collapse on all of those cars including one that we brought from Austin. Would they have been negligent? I don’t know, but the only way to minimize that risk would be to construct a permanent structure that is built to withsatnd winds of 80 MPH.



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I think it boils down to what America has become or is becoming in a fast way. PEOPLE NOT TAKING RESPONSABILITY FOR THERE OWN ACTIONS!!and always wanting to pass the buck or blame others! Its no ones fault but your own if you dont have insurance and something bad happens to your car. GROW UP
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: quick-bowtie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it boils down to what America has become or is becoming in a fast way. PEOPLE NOT TAKING RESPONSABILITY FOR THERE OWN ACTIONS!!and always wanting to pass the buck or blame others! Its no ones fault but your own if you dont have insurance and something bad happens to your car. GROW UP </div></div>

Couldn't agree more, but that's not the American Way anymore. As long as we have attorneys willing to compromise ethics and principles to represent the irresponsible, ........ and all for the almighty dollar, ........ the US will continue to deteriorate. Sure beats working for a living, right? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]

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I've been of the train of thought for quite a while that one of the biggest problems in the world (and particularly the United States!) is the LACK OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY. With todays' slick-dick lawyers, anything that happens is somebody's else fault and they should have to pay. I've said it before but I think it's just a matter of time before somebody tries to sue God Almighty for their losses. I'm sure the Vatican has substantial funds, so why not? Anyway, back to the subject.......it's a known but quiet fact that lots of &quot;lame-brain&quot; car collectors don't have insurance because they don't drive the cars and they are usually kept very secure in fortified buildings. We obviously won't be hearing from these collectors in this thread but I bet Hagerty gets a lot of phone calls soon. It's common sense that it's difficult to maintain and insure a fleet of 8-10-or more cars than it is to the average car guy with 1-2-3 cars. Most of these auction cars have avoided catastrophe for 30-40-50 years so the chances of something bad happening the day before it is going to be sold is nil. Well guess what.......&quot;nil&quot; happened! Now somebody has to pay and I'll assume that the party that makes out the best is the lawyer that walked around and left business cards on every damaged vehicle windshield.
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Default Re: Russo & Steele Faces Lawsuits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORIGLS6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: quick-bowtie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it boils down to what America has become or is becoming in a fast way. PEOPLE NOT TAKING RESPONSABILITY FOR THERE OWN ACTIONS!!and always wanting to pass the buck or blame others! Its no ones fault but your own if you dont have insurance and something bad happens to your car. GROW UP </div></div>

Couldn't agree more, but that's not the American Way anymore. As long as we have attorneys willing to compromise ethics and principles to represent the irresponsible, ........ and all for the almighty dollar, ........ the US will continue to deteriorate. Sure beats working for a living, right? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]

Just my personal opinion so if you disagree, jump on my back. But be advised; I don't subscribe to Political Correctness anymore. </div></div>






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Attorneys are not the problem, no more than gun manufacturers are when someone uses their product to commit crimes. Andy had it right...the problem is with those who seek recourse when they are chiefly responsible for their own loss.
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