identifying nickey cars, and yenkos, and...

**black69** · #1 10-15-2008, 07:38 AM

I had to ask this question, do all camaro super cars have tell tail builder marks hidden on them? I met a guy at a morris IL car show this past weekend with an authenticated black nickey camaro and the owner told me the car was signed with a special mark by the builder on the core support. he said the cars were not to be marked but in reality were in subtle ways. It made me think all cars maybe have builder marks on them, even yenkos, motion, and berger and dana cars? I am at the point that of the cars I run across, if I see 'anything' that is not exactly like the factory specs I will now wonder, especially in places it would serve no purpose other than a builders mark. had to ask.

**Mr70** · #2 10-15-2008, 07:43 AM

What mark exactly are you/he talking about?
I saw that car and talked to the owner,but this never came up in our conversation.

**black69** · #3 10-15-2008, 08:11 AM

he said something about hole in the core support and thats how the guy knew he built that exact car when it was new. I did not go and look for it as i don't have a nickey car, and had my 2 yr old running on fumes in my arms. the topic came up when i asked if it was found locally and he said it was in california when they suspected it was a nickey car. then he volunteered the builders marking put on them that were 'not' supposed to be on them. he made mention of the mark near a rivet but can't recall in relation to what. I am more interested in whether all these cars are marked or tagged in a hidden way as step one, and if so, how they are marked is step 2 (topic for another day if step 1 is true).

**Stefano** · #4 10-15-2008, 08:26 AM

Hmmm.........

What did this car have as traditional identifiers to prove its Nickey Heritage. POP, Build Sheet, Window Sticker, Work Orders??

There were some very specific things which were done on most of the Conversion cars, depending on where they were built, California vs Chicago. I have never heard that specific identifiers were requested on the build.

There was paperwork in the service department to document all the work performed at that time. No one ever figured that most of the docs would go up in smoke not long after the cars were built.

**PeteLeathersac** · #5 10-15-2008, 03:26 PM

Sounds too good to be true and even if the Nickey cars had something like this done, it'd be even more unlikely other supercar builders did anything similar much less any kind of organized effort between them..
Could the hole in the core support could be an embelished version of the core holes in BB Novas?.

~ Pete

**black69** · #6 10-15-2008, 07:51 PM

The guy had some paperwork that said it was authenticated by nickey (i thought by don s?, not sure but i did ask repeatidly if it was a blessed car and he showed me paperwork), all he told me some guy living today knew he built 'that exact car' because he fould some mark on the core support or somewhere around there. he told the owner where to look and low and behold it was there just where he told him to look. to me its like signing the bottom of a picture, but hidden on the back of that picture. I beleive it was a chicago car that ended up out of state and now back home, never got the impression this was a california car. at this point i am convinced the nickey cars could have builder fingerprints on them hidden, after talking to the guy standing in front of that black car, and he said it was authenticated as real by nickey. not sure about the other cars at this point, but now have to wonder. maybe guys did this so when they came back for service, they knew who to fire and who to keep, or if car was in an accident, and returned for service as if it was never in an accident(core support would be the first thing to go?). or maybe it slaughtered anything it got into a race with, they could know who built that car as bragging rights. to me its easier to keep track of hidden marks versus looking at serial numbers of cars. I am thinking not just one person built all the yenko cars or the nickeycars, or motion, etc. I think there 'may be' individual artist signitures on these things, so I am just bringing up the topic because the topic came to me this past weekend.

**black69** · #7 10-15-2008, 11:23 PM

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Hmmm.........

There were some very specific things which were done on most of the Conversion cars, depending on where they were built, California vs Chicago. I have never heard that specific identifiers were requested on the build.

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stefano,
to be clear, and what I was told by this guy, that nickey did not want the cars marked (which agrees with the above statement you are making), BUT the builder of the car did a hidden mark anyways identifying they built the car (atleast one did, maybe, needs to be verified).

**sixtiesmuscle** · #8 10-16-2008, 12:08 AM

What year is this car, and, what color interior? Did you get any pictures?

**black69** · #9 10-16-2008, 01:24 AM

did not get pictures, it was black with black interior, either a 67 or 68. not a 69. he had a nice laminate poster board with its story, and some nickey docs. atleast the guy with the red 70 chevelle on this thread saw it and could add if he wanted.

**bashton** · #10 10-16-2008, 05:12 AM

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did not get pictures, it was black with black interior, either a 67 or 68. not a 69. he had a nice laminate poster board with its story, and some nickey docs. atleast the guy with the red 70 chevelle on this thread saw it and could add if he wanted.

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Hmmmm...Any chance the owner was named Felix? Sounds like a familiar car to me...

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