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Old 08-22-2005, 05:06 PM
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I posted the below message over at the Chevelle board asking their expert opinion about the authenticity of my engine. I'm curious about what you guys think.

John

Last year I purchased a 1971 Pontiac TransAm with an LS6 engine. The documentation was impressive, including several articles in popular hot rod and muscle car magazines showing the warranty replacement LS6(from Berger Chevrolet) going into my car. The author of the articles was the second owner of this car who wrote in great detail why he chose the "grand rodent" as a power plant over the then(1972) trashed 455 HO.

When inspecting the car I duly noted the stamping on the front of the block, by the alternator, "TO417CRR". That, along with the articles, and the reasonable price, was enough for me.

Today, while adjusting the valves for the first time, I decided to note the other important numbers: block casting number:3999289, Heads; GM5T, HiPerf., A1472, casting#3964291.

Do I have the real deal or merely a poor imitation? Let me add that I'm happy with the car because, whatever is officially under the hood, is enough to chirp the tires during the 2-3 shift at 70 with a TH400. But, I'd like do know the truth of what's really powering the beast.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:00 PM
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Although CRR suffix was originally used on block #3963512 for a 1970 LS-6 Chevelle with an TH400 on the assembly line,I see your engine block as not being exactly the same.
Your block number #3999289 is a 2-bolt block & casted Jan.14th,1972,(Real LS-6 was a 4-bolt),has subtle design differences,and was a 1972-75 Pass-Chevelle-Corvette-Monte Carlo application.
Had anywhere from 215-270HP.
I see this as a truck application really,as that is what it was used in mostly from 1972 through 1978.
I would just be happy with it if you enjoy it,as that's all that matters.
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Default Re: clone engine?

Thanks. I've also heard there's a possibility I may have a 4-bolt block as the fact that some "289" blocks were used in hiperf. applications. I'll have to check by the oil filter to make sure.

You're right, I'm enjoying the car and that's all that matters. Well, at least the heads are HiPerf! and most likely, LS-6 Heads.

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