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I think this car was discussed on some other sites too. I'm curious how much this car will fetch, being a beautiful resto, but with a non-numbers matching engine. I would think anything over $40,000 nowadays should at least be numbers matching! But I guess clone 69 Yenkos are getting $30K plus now, so who knows...
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I would think anything over $40,000 nowadays should at least be numbers matching! [/ QUOTE ] I tend to disagree with on you for this particular reason (at least on H/O's). The 455 block was brand new in 1968 and 9/10ths of these blocks were ending up in land barge 98's, front drive Toronado's or hot Delta 88's. The hardest these engines ever got leaned on was when they were taking the boat to the lake. Enter the H/O! Factory rated at 390 hp and 500 ft/lbs of torque! What was the difference between the blocks of the H/O and the 98? Nothing! They reported some core shift on those blocks, but when you do not lean hard on them, this hardly rears its ugly head. If they did get leaned on, the block would often go away quickly and the dealer service replacement block came in. My car has a replacement block in it and I don't think any less of it. The '69 H/O advisor stated that there are a lot more with replacement blocks running around than with the original. Also, with only 515 '68's built, you are talking a very limited number (granted, not as rare as a ZL-1 or a Yenko) to be dolled out nationwide. That car would bring more than $40 K, but it won't. The reason, it does not have the flash and WOW factor that the '69 had. ![]()
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I think that my dad had a Hurst Olds back in his glory years. He's long since passed, and I don't know much about the car, but I think it was white, with gold striping, and swivel buckets. Does this sound even remotely correct to any of you Olds people?
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Its over 40k now...what "flash & wow" did a 69 have that is a lot different than a 68 ???
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69's had a rear deck spoiler, forward hood scoops and a white with gold accent stripes. The 68 has a more sleeper look. Check the attached pic
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OK...forgot we were talking about Hurst cars...
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SmallHurst, what I meant was that if a rare Musclecar has a service replacement block, or a non-matching numbers block, the price drops. The 68 and 69 H/O's came down the line with the 455 under their hoods before going to Demmer Engineering, so I would think that a 68 H/O with the original numbers matching block would be worth a heck of a lot more than a service replacement block version. There was a perfect 69 RAIV GTO on E-bay a couple years ago, and people sort of shunned it because it had an SR block, but I tell ya, the car was beautiful. Someone got a great deal.
Granted, this 68 H/O is also beautiful, and probably worth every penny, but if it sells for $50,000, then a totally numbers matching car will probably be $75,000. My point was that I thought the price was sort of high for this car, but I guess the H/O's and W-30's are approaching 6 figures now, so $50,000 for this H/O may be worth it. ![]() I know a block is a block, but the numbers guys look for an investment grade restoration to have everything correct, especially on a car this rare. I guess as long as it's a documented 68 H/O, and has this level of restoration, it's probably worth it. My friend has owned his 69 H/O for over 20 years now, and he and I are still amazed at how high these prices are today. ![]()
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69's had a rear deck spoiler, forward hood scoops and a white with gold accent stripes. The 68 has a more sleeper look. Check the attached pic [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I think the guys that did the appearance package on the 69 spent too much time in the J.C Whitney catalog back then. Same ones smoked a little more rope and came up with the Rallye 350. ![]() ![]()
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I know that the HO's in '68 and '69 were sent to Hurst without an engine. The 455 were put in after the car left the plant. I'm not sure if they put in an engine with some type of stamp or not. I confirmed this with a local owner of a '68 yesterday. He knows quite a bit about the HO's and has three. He just purchased a '72 442 from me.
There is a nice 1970 W30 on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...66511&rd=1 |
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