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Old 11-04-2004, 03:01 AM
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Default 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

Wrecked Z11 Pace Car

Not to bring up a sore subject, but this is
just the type of scenerio that was being discussed about the "kit" cars just out. I wonder if some of you guys who track vins could get the partial for the records to see if this turns up again somewhere.
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

I had a 12,000 mile Pace Car that ended up in worse shape than this one. I had it in storage and the whole warehouse caught fire in 1992. It cooked for four hours and almost nothing on the car survived the intense heat. State Farm was very fair on the settlement and they had no interest in all of the paperwork on the car. I still have everything from the window sticker to three body brodcast sheets, POP, original keys, ect.....
The car number is 640491 and it is a Norwood car, if anyone ever sees it.
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

Not exactly, because your not going to get the VIN plate, or the cowl tag with this hunk of steel. If you were going to build one off this body you'd be better off saving the 75 buck he wants for this and putting it toward a fake trim tag or VIN.

The VIN is (was) 124679N637406. It was a 4spd Car with manual steering, probably an L48, manual top, and no floor console. Pretty much as basic a Z11 as you could buy. It was made 61 VINs after mine which makes it an 04L build, and is actually 4 cars before the last recorded (by GM) Camaro built in April.

The VIN is already noted so if by some miracle it returns from the dead people will know.
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

If someone does buy it they could still fake a car. Buy it just for the hidden vin#s to be grafted on a donor or new body. Get a fake trim tag and get a vin# or close to actual. The sad thing is that many buyers would not even think of comparing the hidden vin# with the title. And i have seen state issued vin tags that use the original vin#, by having a cop look at the hidden vins. Roger
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Think I'd spend my money on a set of 3/16" number and letter stamps from Harbor Freight or someplace similar for about 20 bucks and put my own VIN number on the body tub, that would match the VIN I already had a title for. No one pays any attention to the fonts used in the hidden VIN stamps like they do on an engine pad, so why bother with the headache of moving this hunk of scrap metal from one place to another just for a couple of 3" long peices of sheetmetal. Now everyone knows the VIN of a scrapped (maybe since we don't know what happened to the original VIN or cowl tag) Z11 they can start fabricating now.
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

Don't know what happened to my post but I have seen an ad for the 69 vert in a mag. and I didn't see the 1/4 panel lover indents.Maybe they had to make some changes to satisfy GM
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

Seems to be a moot point for now:

http://www.dynacorn.com/site/04home/home.html


Click on Classic Bodies Inc icon. The project seems to be on hold for now. Wonder if GM brought out some heavy hitting lawyers, or if there was some problem with the bodies themselves. Either way no ones building fake Z11's for now, unless they do it the old fashioned way.
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Dynacorn was going to have a body at sema in vegas. Anyone there seen if it was there? Roger
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked Shell

I believe that is where they may have been asked (I assume GM) to put their project on hold in a legal manner.
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I'm sure there will be much talk of these bodies. Chevrolet will have to license them and assign VINs (extremely unlikely!) for them to be Chev products. The transfering of VIN numbers (illegal, of course) is the only way (even if illegitimately) you could call one of these new tubs a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro. Otherwise, it is going to be assigned a VIN by your state and, at least in Iowa, titled as a "2004 reconstructed". I did it in '76 with a Ford T.

There are ways to get title as a 69 Chev again but it requires bonding and the dishonest people that graft VINs and lie probably aren't going to want to stand up this tall.

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