68 Grand Prix--yay or nay?

[69Tom]

I actually find this car to be pretty darn cool. Not to mention, fairly rare with the 4-speed and 8-lug wheels. Wish I had the $ at the moment--I'd try to throw a bid in at the last min....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Truc...A1%7C240%3A1318

[Charley Lillard]

Cool car but these days I think he will have a hard time getting in the mid 20's like he wants.

[442w30]

I think these cars are pretty cool, but don't pay too much. Also, don't fall for the owner's puffery . . . "I think this would be an HO car except for the AC . . . " I mean, WTF?

[BJCHEV396]

Real nice Poncho.But not a good time to sell.

[69Tom]

what do y'all think it's worth?

[Bill Pritchard]

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what do y'all think it's worth?

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$15K - $18K.

[Bill Pritchard]

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the owner's puffery . . . "I think this would be an HO car except for the AC . . . " I mean, WTF?

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I took it to mean that, had the original ordering person not wanted the car equipped with a/c, they probably would have opted for the HO motor. They're speculating no matter what, but I didn't take it to be some shyster marketing ploy

[StealthBird]

It's one of those cars that would cost $50K "to restore", but isn't worth $20K "restored". Not many repro parts available for these cars...

That being said, these ARE cool cars!!! They weren't popular back in the day though. The totally redesigned 1969 Grand Prix sold over 3 times what the 1968's did. The 1968 was considered a "big fat turkey" even by one of the Pontiac chief engineers.

Some issues: The car sits about 2" high in back, about an 1" high in the nose, but not a big deal. Also, not sure if the 1968 Grand Prix would use a GTO gear shift knob. I'm also a bit skeptical of how he says he "doesn't think it's an HO car", when he has the PHS, and the build sheet. He should KNOW it's not an HO car. I also like the his answer to the question of whether the engine has any leaks (there's anti-freeze under the intake). He says "no, the anti-freeze just puddles there after it's shut off."

Ummm...isn't that a leak?

By the way, that's NOT "just a washer" as he states (sounds like what someone from a 1970's sitcom would tell someone that wants to buy their house, and there's water pouring out of a faucet). Yes, it's in inexpensive rubber washer that it needs, but the intake has to come off, new intake gaskets, and lots of scraping.

Overall though, you don't see many of these cars around (although there IS a red 68 Grand Prix that attends one our weekly cruise nights around here!), and they are definately attention getters, just not as desireable as a 69-72 Grand Prix.

I would guess $18K-$20K if it was indeed restored properly. It looks very nice, you don't see very many 4-speeds, but he has to find the right buyer that has been looking for a red 68 GP 4-speed to get that price.

[69Tom]

Yeah, I definitely didn't think he was trying to pawn it off as an HO motor. If anything I took it to mean that this definitely wasn't one as it had AC.

Well, in any event, if it was going for 15-18, I might try and grab it. However, he states he wants "in the 20s" in an answer to one of the questions, so I'm guessing that's unlikely.

[442w30]

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I took it to mean that, had the original ordering person not wanted the car equipped with a/c, they probably would have opted for the HO motor. They're speculating no matter what, but I didn't take it to be some shyster marketing ploy

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I didn't think he was trying to pawn it off as an HO. I just thought it was silly what he was saying. . . who knows what the original owner would have bought if he didn't order AC, ya dig?

I once looked at a triple black HO stick car. Didn't have the money, but I always have kept that car in my mind. Would also love to have a '68 Catalina post with the same engine!