[Chevy454]

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I am hearing that the Z will be a mid year intro just like '67, with a brand new engine application for a car like the Camaro.

Scott and GM are 180 out on the way Mustang and Challanger are being currently pitched.

This means no public burnouts for the new Camaro and this has to do with the competing brands that are selling now and how they are promoted. Imports.

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I *hope* it happens, but I'm not holding my breath...I've heard all the rumors about the Z getting the LSA (CTS-V) wonderhorse engine, but think about it: GM is just trying to stay alive, gas prices have doubled since they started thinking of a 4th gen replacement almost 10 years ago, and they would have to price the Z *more* than the base 'Vette to keep from stealing Corvette buyers (and GM will NOT harm that sacred cow)...none of that sounds viable to me. I could *easily* see them making the Z a spinoff of the 4th gen RS...just a thrown on spoiler & badges.

As for "Scott and GM" being 180 out...doesn't surprise me. But riddle me this: who does GM think is their market? I can guaran-darn-tee you it will be priced *out* of the market they're shooting for...so that leaves us with prior generation Camaro owners and/or performance enthusiasts...and when you talk to them, do *any* of them seem stoked about the new V6 Camaro? Heck no they don't, they want a high-hp V8 from the 'Vette or even something better! They aren't interested in it's futuristic looks, or if it rides like a Lexus...start talking track times, and folks listen! And speaking of track times, the new SS was mighty impressive around the Nurburbring...it was 2 seconds quicker around the track than the Cobalt SS!?! Nothing like saddling a performance car with lots of weight...(3800 pounds dry).

Look at all the buzz from the Challenger & Mustang camp...what does it revovle around? Performance. Whether it be from commercials, or public appearances like the S/S Challengers racing @ the NHRA Denver event...folks ate it up with a spoon...the majority of hype I hear lately about the new Camaro is "why do they keep moving it back" and "I'm so tired of hearing about this thing already, with nothing to show of it"...

I'm as die hard of a GM guy as there ever will be, but this all seems like a too little too late kinda deal to me...