[Steve Shauger]

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certified pedigree by NCRS or Bloomington or other judging associations gain some status/recognition.

[/ QUOTE ] Steve,Do any of them check hidden vins etc before handing out an award?? I think the rebody problem is more prevalent and easier to pick up in camaros and metal body cars etc than it is in corvettes as there is no metal to weld in,only tag removal and replacement . The frame numbers on corvettes are usually rusted away in many cases,and a frame change doesnt constitute a rebody anyway.

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I used two corvette judging programs as examples only. My point was usually cars that have questionable pedigree stay away from recognized judging/certifiers. Also if the hidden VINS were installed correctly(illegally) on a rebody, it would be almost impossible to tell without stripping the paint off and examining very closely. However there are a myriad of misrepresentations that are easily detected.

I will tell you several years ago we had a car an orange L89 convert that wanted to enter our program. During our prequalification process I did a little searching regarding the cars history. Yes this was the very low mileage orig paint car. I was able to track down I believe the second owner and found the car was originally a 327 210hp , powerglide car. The second owner built it as a clone(I confirmed this with the restorer) and sold it as a clone. When he sold the car he protected himself by having the buyer of the clone sign a document stating the cars status as a clone. Ultimately this car was rejected by our program. Somehow during subsequent ownership it became a REAL car and became fully documented and interestingly one of the posters in this thread might own it.