+++ Rick +++ I fully agree, and I grew up just like that, I'm over 65, and I look at the kid's, as well as my own, and think are they better off, HA, if it wern't for our support, they would be in alot more debt than they already are.. If they have a problem , they can't call fast enough, if you try to give advise, Ha, never take it, YES, it's my fault to a point, but I love them, but oh what hell they put me through at times...

..Kasey