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Oh well, I just still don't agree that it's that easy to fool someone that knows about these cars.
Hey JOZW30 ,
Is it live or Memorex? Tell me if you believe this one to be authentic? You seem to think that a well-done clone can fool none of the Olds guys. Tell me with your W-30 expertise whether this one is real or fake?
I have my own opinion after seeing it & hearing it run at the fall 2006 Mecum auction. It also had a very unique broadcast sheet that had NO mention of W-30. The owner has a reason for this though that sounds legit.
Right!!! I guess this Muscle Car Review magazine is supposed to prove some level of authenticity also as if they were not converting/cloning cars way back in the late eighties.
Good luck! But it had ALL THE RIGHT PARTS. Thanks Parts Place! The owner seems to be willing to do or say anything to establish some level of credibility for this car. But you should still be able to weed out the fakes for us novices. Maybe you better E-mail a few of the bidders and tip them off as to your take.
Just my opinion though.
W-30 Convertible
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I had two Customers interested in purchasing this car, so I gave it a good look over at the auction. I could not determine if it was a real W30 or not?
The Broadcast card did not show the W30 option, while I have never seen an authentic W30 broadcast card without it, this could have been a factory mistake?
btw; Original Blank Broadcast cards, from the OEM have been avialable for years, many of these original blanks have also been sold on ebay! So, as a W30 Collector and Enthusiast a W30 Broadcast Card, "paperwork", is not an end all.
At least you can be very certain that the current owner did not have one of the ebay broadcast sheets made up.
W30s also would have had a specific gear ratio as std. or optional. Since the rear was Rusty and Crusty I could not see it?
The $$$$$ amount on Bill of sale to the second owner, which was present, was for far less than the value of a real W30 Convertible 4 speed, but was offered up as proof and validity.
We communicated with the "Original" Owner to see if he had any additional docs or Vintage Pics. He said that it was a real car and that everyone in town knew the car, but unfortunately no pics or additional docs?
All original sheet metal 1970 and 71 W30s which I have inspected have a factory inspection mark showing W30. I could not see it on this car? They were only built (at least 99%) at the Lansing Plant, in Detroit. But, parts could have been changed?
To those who do not follow these cars, only 96 were ever built in a Convertible and 4 speed, so they are worth the effort to try and validate.
Per John's Post. The VIN is not on the broadcast card, only the body sequence number, which corresponds to the trim tag.