Yes, someone posted some messages on this site a year or two ago stating they owned these cars, but he became offended because others questioned whether the cars really existed. We often have unknown posters claim to own, or know about rare cars but offer no proof and when pressed they seem to dissappear after a while without substantiating their claims. There is a board member who lives in Phoenix and takes great pictures who, I'm sure would love to see the cars you referenced if they are in fact real.