[Steve_Hoog]

I just got off the phone with another GM Engineer who still works there, in Powertrain. Which sits on top of the old Engineering building, the tunnel is still there apparently.

Engineering was connected by an underground tunnel to the administration building which is about a 5 to 10 minute walk. The production plant was about 500 yards from the engineering building, so they were like a tripod of buildings. He said most of the production buildings are gone and that you can still see some of the foundations.

I asked him to give a general perception of why cars went to engineering and he said basically to make mules. He said there were several other reasons why cars went there, and that there were actually enough parts there to build a car. He said they would grab cars off the assembly line like we might grab a bolt from the bin and there was never any paperwork. So PHS would be of little use for any car that ended up in engineering, I hated to hear that but that's the way it is I guess. He said any car built without dum dum would be skipped on the production by a walk through with an engineer, which is the exact same thing the guy that gave me the build sheet said.

He also told me about the black 70 RAV that ran around the facilities, just as the other engineer I talked to some time ago. So I would suspect that car to be as told, probably no PHS on it either. I asked about his opinion on Marty Schorr's accounting of Milford, he said it was possible but he wasn't involved with Milford and could not collaberate that.

He said the facilities as he descibed were basically laid out in the late 60's, so the guy from Tulsa that went there and saw the SD room apparently saw the older layout. He had never heard of "The Hobby Shop", so I now suspect that to be term used with the older SD room.

I dig this kinda stuff!!!! I asked if he would try to find some old pics of the engineering building, he will try. I love pics and that would be some sweet stuff to see.

So that's it for now.