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Old 11-07-2004, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S

Mr. chop shop does not fall under the exemptions stated in USC 511, since he is a not the owner or the owners representative, b probably knows the vehicle is stolen, and c does not have the owners permission. Therefore by definition of the code he is performing an illegal act under this section of the code. This is also not to say that there are not state codes dealing with the "tampering" with a VIN that may also apply to this situation.

Once again it all comes down to the definition of repair. If I, for example, want to repair my Z11 (cause I own one) by purchasing a bunch of reproduction body parts already welded together to form a body tub by someone else (it is not a car after all, it's a repair peice) and install it in my driveway with my two hands, instead of buying a bunch of loose reproduction and or NOS body parts and paying someone to weld them together onto my subframe, I am all of a sudden considered as some lower form of life (for example, I'm not really that bad a person), whereas the person who delivers a rusted out hulk of a Z11 and all those loose parts to a body shop and returns 6 months to a year later with a big check in hand is a savior or a classic automobile. Sort of like the work done on Fred Gibb's #1 ZL1 coupe, but because he kept the dreaded hidden VIN sections of the firewall it's OK. What happened to the VIN or VIN's or the cars all the rest of the pieces were cut from, or is this OK cause it's a Historic Vehicle. Yes, I'm being slightly sarcastic, but not that much. What's the difference in the end, both vehicles contain sheetmetal that was made somewhere besides the original GM sheetmetal plants. What is the holy part of the Camaro that should not be reproduced that is making this body tub so distatefull to people.

I agree that someone should not be able to make a hot rod version of the Camaro from this part, but thats a different issue. But all of this is probably moot because if GM makes Dynacorn sell these things without quarters the market for them is going to shrink to about 10 to 20 percent of what it was with the quarters. Obviously the price is now going to have to drop by 2 to 3 thousand dollars and that may make the return on investment way to low to justify their continued existance.

And yes, a chevelle does have a VIN stamped on the frame on the drivers side top, back by the gas tank I believe.
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