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You are right about giving up Pete, you shouldn't,but your cars are far from stock even though they look stock. Maybe the tires hurt the most. Stock for the classification maybe...but stock GM
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Don't get me confused with the stock appearing gents. My Nova for instance has never been restored. It has been painted but that is it. Original springs on all corners, original body mounts etc etc. Stock cam from GM, stock unported heads from GM, TRW pistons, stock rods etc etc. Years of tuning, and real seat of the pants driving. My Camaro may have a few suspension mods, but we certified the motor. Stock GM cam, TRW pistons, stock rods and so on! Still a stock Deuce should be able to go mid to high 13's in it's sleep! I run the same tires as anyone else.
The pure stock guys are a unuaual breed and the only folks that have really tried to get the most out of a stock combination. The world was brainwashed right from the late 60's on from Hot Rod magazines that had to push advertisers products to sell there mags. They never ever really supertuned a car. They would make one pathetic blast down a track and then add headers, then after that set the timing and curve, then change jets etc etc, instead of sticking with it to see what it could do.
Again.... Don't give up so easy guys!
Peter