Maybe you didnt drink enough. I started this thread, if you go back and read it from beginning to end you will find that the discussion was not about the current owner of the car, nothing negative was really brought up about the owner. I actually feel for the guy. The discussion was about the car and it's history, which is what this board is for. I had some well founded questions about it, if the answers are anywhere they would be here. The negativity came about when the story of a past owner who is allegedly lying in an effort to get even or get the car back, whichever, but lies will help none of these cars or the hobby. The lies are blatantly negative and should be treated as such. The negativity here came from a past owner, not the current or future owners. And you are right, let someone buy the car, no one is saying otherwise, a few even commented on what a nice car it was and how much fun it would be.....not negative, so as it states here already, instead of lies, deciet, or conspiracys, for Gods sake somebody buy it so maybe they can come here and tell the rest of the hobby what it really is.......if they choose to. As for asking us to pay? Well, I disagree, as anytime a situation that involves lies, deciet, fraud, or any shadowy transaction takes place in this hobby it costs all the rest of us in a bad reputation for the hobby and people involved, it causes people who may have joined the hobby to have second thoughts, in a way it can even decrease the value of legitamite collector cars. The last thing any hobby needs is a nervous buying audience. It is not a situation of this car being advertised in a local hometown paper, this was the biggest collector car auction on the planet with world wide coverage. Anytime someone shells out the kind of money it takes to collect these cars, like Motion cars, they have a right and responsibility to do research and investigate anything that is on the market, and that is done through many ways, including web sites like this one. If someone owns a car that could possibly be one of a few on the planet, dont expect to bring it to a function like Barrett Jackson without it being discussed. If you cant stand the scutiny, dont get under the magnifying glass! This car has apparently had past issues, anyone with common sense would know it would cause a certain amount of controversy at a world wide event. I still cant grab on to the big picture here anyway, a former owner wants the car back, so he lies about it to damage it's reputation in order to buy it.....yet the whole time it is FOR SALE and could be bought at any time without all the BS! Which in my opinion by the way, doesnt make any sense and I think the whole story is BS! The point is however, considering what the car is represented to be, and the current market value for a real car like that, anyone with an interest has a right to question everything. That particular car was one of the few at BJ that I would have had an interest in buying if it turned out to be real, so with 70K at stake I am supposed to buy it without asking questions? Right......

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