[GOAT72]

Bobcat,
Rather than diving into your pig-stye of misinformation (and horrific spelling), I will simply respond to a few of your ridiculous claims and display your lack of credibility to this forum.

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But, Yep, I am older 50. No, Milt is not in his '70's but I'm sure he appreciates the compliment too.

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********Bobcat, I am happy that you "am older 50." Congrats!
Milt Schornack is in his early 70's. How do I know this?
I ASKED HIM.
So you are wrong about Milt's age. Not a big deal, but just another example of your inability to focus in reality.
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<<I wonder if "Royal" ever won a race with everyone beating them.
Undeniable contributions? Milt didn't start "looking on" at a Sun Distributor machine, a heads cc'd chamber, or an open engine compartment while at Royal until the 1965 magazines.

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This makes sense, since Milt didn't start at Royal until October of 1963. With the racing season all but over, Milt would not become involved until 1964. If it took him a WHOLE YEAR to get into a magazine, I envy him!

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I read one books which you reference that Milt said he should have patented the ram air system he worked on in 1965.
Too, bad that the '61-'62 Chevy's where already using it on their NASCAR racers. Z-11 program and 409's

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**********Milt's Ram Air device was a self-admitted, "very rough prototype," which Pontiac engineers reworked. If others were working a Ram Air set-up, that's fine, because NO ONE HAD PATENTED IT at that point, so Milt could have applied for the patent. Period.
Secondly, if Chevy had it on NASCAR cars, then it was NOT a street application. Milt was trying to develop a ram air device for Royal Pontiac -- not NASCAR.

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In the back of the many 1965-1966 car magazines where "ACE Wilson Royal Pontiac/ Royal Racing Team" ads. with a contact person of, John Martin. Later no name because the duties where shared with Dennis Frazho and later Milt.
You should go back to "SPEED AND CUSTOM" magzine in August, 1963 and you still only see Dick Jesse, Jim Wangers and Frank Rediker.

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**********Again, Milt started in Oct. '63, so why would he be in your "magzine" in August of that year?
You grasp... and you fail, Eric.

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I guess you haven't come across the History Channel" History of The Firebird" With me in the credits. Or, Speed Channel "American Muscle Car, Hurst Corp" with me in the credits.

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********* .....and those credits were forrrrrrr......?
Maybe because you OWN an older car.. or perhaps some historic paraphernalia?
They certainly can't be because of your distorted views, which are based out of personal hatred for a fellow human being.

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Now the factory had two (2) Ram Air V engines in Florida. LOL [ QUOTE ]


********* Sorry, Eric, the books say he swapped One (1) out. period.
I don't know where you got the notion of 2.

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As for the "Car Craft Allstar Team" Brian would love to talk to you about that too. That became the only jacket Milt ever wore for years.

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********* ah........ and there's something wrong with that?


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Thom DeMauro. He definately didn't know how to spell Royal until resent years.

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And you can't spell "Tom."
Nor can you spell "definitely" or "recent" for that matter...

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Thom will tell you he doesn't have time for extensive research. That he has to rely on the few people he comes in contact with. He has to get out a magazine for entertainment.

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********It is obvious you are pulling stuff directly from your BACK SIDE.
Tom DeMauro DOES have time to research things, and he'd better, because he runs a magazine! He ALSO wrote one of those "book things", Eric. It was about the GTO. He had to do extensive research in order to write this "book thing."

If you begin to cite Tom DeMauro as one of your "buddies" he'll probably gag up a lung when he hears of it.



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It's amazing the only people that can profit from your refusal to beleive reality is the one's you are blindly defending.The ones who have motive to future profits. LOL

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********Wait a second. Is Jim Wangers profiting?
Are you blindly defending him? To the point of slanderous and libelous assaults on another person?

Again, we ALL enjoy, appreciate and RESPECT Mr. Wangers and Mr. Schornack for their contributions. For you to completely dispell one's very existence is ignorant.

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Kicked out of local GTO club. That's even funnier. Keep up the story book. The chapters are getting better.

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***** I have it from not one, not two, but FOUR different sources that you were voted out of the Woodward GTO Tiger organization.

From these sources I also know that you have a history of being abrasive with your peers -- people who are simply trying to enjoy the hobby.

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Unfortunately those who you appear to idealize have made a career of taking advantage from your thrust for more. Really, knowlege is good, blind faith is just that.
Thank you very much for todays entertainment. I've got to send this to Jim and some others.LOL


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**********Eric, for some reason you fail to garner ANY information from books, magazines and newspaper articles. You shun everything that is accepted in your own display of blind faith.
Everything you say is based on hearsay. You claim it is "first hand" but you were obviously NOT there. Even if you're in your 50's, you would have been only 10 years old when Royal was in its glory.
You heard this information from ONE SOURCE-- this is NOT "first hand". Is is second-hand or "word-of-mouth" at best.

How can SO MANY PEOPLE be wrong, and only YOU are right?

And what do you hope to accomplish with your insulting words and revisionist history?

There will always be room for more stories from the guys who were there in the 1960s. We all love to hear them speak and read their words.
Why don't you stop your hate campaign and just enjoy the hobby?

Just because you are friends with Mr. Wangers does not make you the authoritative voice of Royal Bobcat history. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]

Happy New Year, Bobcat.
Peace.
~G72