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From someone not involved but reading what is posted... GRB posted and it wasn't taken as negative toward GMMG or the ZL1. From his first post it's obvious he was given information that led him to feel there was enough of a problem it warrented letting others know there could be a problem. It didn't sound like anything more than an expression of concern for fellow owners. He even stated he wasn't placing any blame... Matt it's obvious by your first reply you didn't see what the problem could be...

<font color="brown"> Sidebar: There are two kinds of problems, physical and percived, physical are easy to identify and fix (the tire is flat). Percived problems are a different animal but to the person having the problem are just as real as a flat tire. To the person tasked to resolve the problem, percived problems are often met with as a pain in the ass and not given the attention they should. This is of most importance to providing a service!! Remember the old saying "The customer is always right"? </font>

Matt you did well trying to get to the root of the problem and you and GRB had several good exchanges until Mike stepped in. He didn't introduce himself but acted very defensive over what GRB had to say. It was enough to provoke a moderator to speak up!! Granted at this point GRB and Mike were the only ones that knew of their previous history on the LS1 site it was still not a very good way to make a point. Mike then scoffed at the request to fill in his profile and then proceeded to edit his own words and declair he was banned from the site in a rather childish way.

Mikes reception here has nothing to do with GRB and the good folks here were able to put 2 and 2 together and figure out Mike = GMMG. At that point readers are going [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] and Mike comes back and complies with the moderators request but has to get a lick in, in doing so! He also makes an attempt to turn all this on GRB as a pot stir'r instead of just moving on... I'm sure from Steve's reply that this is where folks are getting the sour taste and where any question of GMMG's integerty is coming from.

Your long vent and lashing out at the folks here in defense of Mike sure doesn't put GMMG in any better light with folks reading this thread. No one questioned Mikes ability as an engine builder. It's his ability as a company representitive that needs to be addressed and maybe yours too. Please take that constructivly I know we all get stressed at times but when and where we vent really has an impact on folks. Had you come here and started a thread and vented it would have been taken way different than venting in the middle of an already volital thread... Your reply after Steves post should have been one of repair not dispare.

I'm not going to go lerking around LS1.com to get more on this between GRB and Mike but you might want to to get some insight into how GMMG is being represented to possible customers...