Geez qickrod, samllrod or whatever your name is. Are you a little paranoid? Hmmmmmm, It is pretty funny that you would post such a statement about me badgering the seller after our conversation yesterday. I would like to list a few facts here and now I am going to post a couple of the seller' s emails. Here we go:
Fact: You were extremely nice to me yesterday when you found out that the seller still had my money. You stated "I will do everything I can to help get your money back".
Fact: You stated yesterday "screw Doug, I suggest you put the screws to him in court", "he tried to screw everybody" "I just want to get the car to me". You even asked if I could have my friend in NY transport the car. Come on here an tell me that you did not say these things and I will put you in the same class as the seller.
Now today, you are taking the poor Doug attitude. Wow, sounds pretty funny. You are a joke.
Now here we go about the facts regarding this issue:
Fact:The seller stated to me that you backed out and that the car wat still avaliable. Tell Doug to come on to this site and state different. I am posting his emails.
Fact: I did not even make an offer to the seller, I asked him what he wanted for the car and I gave him every dime and he was happy. I did not badger him. The only people who badgered him were the people trying to buy the car after I had the agreement.
Fact: I had a signed purchase agreement and he took my money.
Fact: He still has my money. I am going to sue him to get my money back.
Fact: No one on the web site who was sent an email from the seller stating that the car was still available even had the balls to come out and defend me. Pretty sad when I consider myself a member of this site.
Fact: THE SELLER IS A DISHONEST PERSON! He made at least three deals beyond you.
Here are a couple of emails from the seller word for word. I have not talked to the seller since the last email regarding this issue and after I received this email, I had no problem with the fact that the car was quickrods. These emails state the facts. The seller did not change his mind about selling the car to me or those who were trying to buy it out from under me until he was being threatened with legal action. You even threatened him with legal action because you had a legally binding contract as well. If it were not for that, the car would have gone to the highest bidder because the seller stated that he does not have the money to go through court.
From the Seller:Received on 11/16/03
hi, my number is 607 387 9538, my name is doug..call
asap if you want this car...
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Another:Received on 11/18/03
Clint,im not sure where to start but i will say this.
a mans selfworth is everything. Duane is the high
bidder on the car,actually made a deal with me prior
to end of auction.he could provide emails to prove
this to ebay or whoever needed to see it. plus he did
send me money on the car.all the [censored] started
happening at the end of the auction.little did i know
what i may have(still hasnt been documented)anyhow,i
thought i could get more money for it,it started with
you and went from there.somebody else tryied to buy it
and you talked me out of it by our talk about
honesty.now your still trying to get me to sell it to
you.ive been thinkin a lot about the right thing to do
and that is ...the cars goes to Duane. he won it fair
and square.my binding contract is with him and no one
else.i called him and left a message letting him know
the car is his!the only thing wrong i did was accept
your offer and now im doing the right thing and
refusing it.yaaaa im goin to lose a lot of money,but
at least i know i did the right thing here and thats
what matters.please dont call me to try to change my
mind. call Duane, maybe you can buy the
car from him. if he wants to sell it to you, great!
maybe you can still end up with it. good luck with
your cars, Doug
There you go. Say what you will. I have not spoken to him since. I belive that the only thing that changed his mind was the threat of legal action. He has proven that he was not honest when he made other deals on this car.
Now for the members of this site who have taken stabs at me and insulted my character and integrity. It is a small clique and you know who you are. You do not need me and I do not need you. It is very unfortunate that people who don't even know me or who did not understand the facts in this situation were taking shots. I am 31 years old and have been in this hobby since I bought a TA Challenger 340 six pack car when I was 15. It was not until I owned my first Supercar 1 year ago that I had a problem with anyone in this hobby and I mean anyone. I have felt a great sense of isolation since owning these cars and most people have fallen into one of a few groups of people. It is very sad to say that there is very little sence of community among the new and old members of this board. People want to be affiliated with a group or organization because they feel like they belong. Tom Clary, allot of people do not feel like they belong on this site, good honest people. It is sad to say, but the group of people who feel they are a member of this site keeps geting smaller and smaller until finally, it will hurt the hobby and this site will dicipate. Allot of the reasons that people will even look at these threads anymore is to see who is fighting, who cant get to a rare car the quickest when it is posted for sale or to BS about non Supercar related material. That is why the site is losing so many valuable members. In closing, people will probably care less about my comments and things will continue to be the way they are. I do not think that anybody is really thinking about the future of this site or the hobby. Let the bashing begin as so many ex-members have said.Best wishes. Clint