Mike, My point regarding shutting up was meant to be that if I had a Camaro that was represented as a Baldwin Motion Car and did not have the proper paperwork to document the vehicle people would doubt it's legitimacy no matter who verbally verified the car. Now on to the Ram Air V GTO I have seen other GTO's with the same memo and they were not RA V cars. As I have stated before the car is no slouch it's a RA IV car that is rare. I believe 1 of 804 in which there were 325 RA IV Judge hardtop 4 speeds. If Knafel Pontiac put the RA V in the car at the dealership that is way cool as well. That's as close to a Motion or Nickey car that us Pontiac guys have. My only point is that unless there is a buildsheet or definitive documentation from Pontiac not just word of mouth then no one can really say that the engine was installed at the factory. Another point is that the RA V block casting number is totally different from any 400 motor. Mike will a few drinks on me suffice as an apology? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
Steved: my cars are not race cars I never said they were faster then yours and I will not thrash numbers matching vehicles just to prove anything to you. They are show cars that have intact drivelines from when they were new why would I want to risk ruining them. They were run once for fun before they were restored and that's it.
The one thing we all have in common is a love for these old cars and when a debate like this draws all this attention from various people all over the coutry, it makes me feel good that this hobby and the passion for these cars will live on long after we are all gone.
I just find it very interesting that Pontiac documented all the VIN's of the early Super Duty cars that Harrop, Beswick and others took delivery of, raced and won National events with. They even had every VIN for 70 TA's with RA IV's in them broken down by time built, 4 speed vs. auto, as well as blue vs. white cars and the plant in which they were produced. Why then not these two cars?
These are two great cars no matter what the case is.
Mike [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/
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