Re: "Mystery" Chevelle LS-6 in NEW Muscle Car Review???
Randy
Who are you upset with?
Me?
All who participated in this thread?
All Illinios Guys?
I have nothing against you,or this Chevelle.
I do have a problem with the way they Describe and Represent some of the cars you sell.
There was never any bashing going on in this thread.Only opinions about that featured Chevelle.
I am sure it is a very Nice car,and I wouldn't mind owning it.But not at that price,with those faults.
I know magazines can distort the facts a bit,as you stated,as there is nothing so Mysterious about this Chevelle.It just has one of the Special Order Paint codes.
If me calling this Chevelle Floating around is what is upseting to you,then so be it.This is hardly a reason to get upset about.In this day and age of people buying and selling and trading amongst themselves,its is common and not demeaning to this Chevelle.
I am not a 1970 Chevelle expert and have never claimed to be one.You labeled me that in this thread,and continue to do so.That offends me as I am just a Musclecar enthusiast like yourself.Don't put me up on that pedestal.I share my knowledge with all who ask for it as they share with me too.
I did not asign myself Forum Leader,it comes with the amount of time you spend here.Many,many more have this same title here as well.Don't take it literally.
I wish my opinion had that much weight with mankind,but it doesn't.
You as a MuscleCar salesman though,have a Responsibility to describe your cars REALISTICALLY.Take the high road.Don't mislead because other MuscleCarBrokers have deceived in their descriptions and gotten away with it.Only to have lawsuit after lawsuit later on.
Awhile back you had a 1970 L-78 Fathom Blue Chevelle that was being advertised as being built with Air Conditoning.We all know in 1970 Solid lifter engined Chevelles did not come with A/C.Yet you were claiming it was a numbers matching block to this car as built from the factory.When I looked at this Chevelle at Shaumburg Ill.Chevelle Showdown,It clearly had a completely different VIN# stamped on the block.Non matching to this Chevelle.Clearly a transplant.
The buildsheet I am holding for it is clearly an L-34 built car,with all it's respective codes.
Noone cares about how much volume sales a Muscle Car seller reports,or how much they just bought the
neighboring stores for to make room for more questionable cars.
In this day and age,you we be held accountable.
It's about trust.Look at Enron,Arthur Anderson,Worldcom,Xerox,to name a few.All deceived and got caught.
You say some people may take may opinion as gospel.Then you have the same responsibility as a Musclecar salesman.Don't sway the public with "Matching number" this and "One of One built" that.
If there is no factory documentation to support these cars,SAY IT.Don't take the attitude of "Prove us wrong" because there are no records to be found to prove this car wrong.State what is only a Fact,and not "a Maybe,who knows car".
If you are asking for Big Dollars on a car,your details stand to be criticized.That is why people nit pick the higher dollar cars more the an 18K driver.
If a restorer takes short cuts,he will be called out on them.
And don't say you are just the Broker,and the owner is asking for that selling price.
We all know you the Broker has a hand in setting the Cars price.
I am sure you have some Very Happy customers,but you must also know that you have some extremely irate Buyers.And what do they all have in common.Being Misled about a cars Heritage,Restoration or Documentation.I have many stories to tell about some certain Cars your company has sold in the past,but I will not go into detail here.It makes me ashamed sometimes to meet these buyers and see these cars,and have to say that I am from the same State and area as these Musclecar Dealers.Yes I know buyer beware,but there is no excuse for obvious ignorant deception at any price.I now you all keep track of eachother.It's a small world.
If you sell a car at a realistic price,then chances are that buyer will come back to you to sell that car in the future.Thats just good ETHICS and good Business.
Randy,I know you are a good person,so some of the tactics that are going on over there today may not be of your own wishes.If that is the case,then I would seperate myself from that employer.
Rick
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