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----I understand what you are saying, Steve. I am upside down on more than one vehicle in the stable. I like them and am not worried about value. I guess I was trying (badly, Ill admit) to make the point that, if need be, it would be hard for a hobbiest or a dealer to climb out from under the expense of this Judge once restored.
----As far as shape goes, I guess thats subjective. Expense on this one isnt only in the rust although thats a goodly part of it looking at the pics......Bill S