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Kind of an embarrasing situation occurred over Thanksgiving when I was in PA. A friend (also a Camaro judge) stopped over and, of course, we went up to my barn to look at cars. He took the cover off of #616414. After about a minute or so, he asked me why I thought the VIN tag had been off of the car. I replied that the attachment rivets were put in backwards. To my great embarrassment he told me that all 1969 Camaros have their rivets installed like that!!!! Frankly, I've never paid much attention to the VIN attachments on 1969s - they are kind of hidden up under the dash pad. Most VIN tags that I see are attached with rivets installed from the same side that the numbers are facing. The rivets on 1969 Camaros are obviously installed from the opposite side. As I recall, another person who commented in this thread (or maybe it was vfitom in a PM) also erroniously thought the rivets were installed backwards when he inspected the car in 2000. Anyway, for those who have followed this thread - I wanted to appologize and clear up the confusion that I have caused with regard to the VIN having been off of the car. Also, according to my friend, there is corrosion at the base of the attachment rivets which indiates that they have been in place for a long time. Of course, all of this (including the rivet heads) has to be photo documented when (and if) the car gets disassembled.
The project involving locating old owners is progressing (slowly). The number of owners in PA since new is 21! Hopefully, I can document discussions with most of them - it would make great reading. I have gotten tied up on one rabbit trail that inolves PA title sequence number 17 (issued in '01 or '02). Ths title doesn't appear in the continuous ownership history of the car. Maybe it's where the "car in an envelope" story came from? I'm certain that the VIN tag has been continuously attached to this car throughout that period. If anyone has any info regarding this (or heard any rumors worth my following up on) I would appreciate an email.