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Old 11-21-2009, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Stolen 71 Challenger found after almost 30 yea

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"...We all know that often times fender tags are missing and it means nothing LEGALLY..."

It sure means something legally in Oklahoma!.
Ask Lynn!.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...fpart/all/vc/1


Great the Challenger is back home!.


~ Pete

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I like real cars best...the REAL real ones!


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My whole point to posting about this was to point out that law enforcement was looking at the WRONG things with regards to this car? Yes, a fender tag on a 1969 and newer Mopar does have the V.I.N. on it. Maybe that was changed on this car maybe not. The point to this is that the car STILL had the original V.I.N. as it had when stolen. We all know it it very easy to get a new title for an old car. So, if there is no check by DMVs in all states for stolen vehicles by V.I.N. then the only time a stolen car is going to be recovered is by LUCK or insurance investigators checking V.I.N.s at car shows etc. This is not just MY opinion, as I just two weeks ago had my 1981 H.D. Sturgis Lowrider stolen. The insurance investigator told me that they have a fair recovery of stolen motorcycles because they DO check V.I.N.s at motorcycle gathering.

The bottom line here is that a stolen vehicle can be re-registered in another's name with the original V.I.N. and could never be discovered. It would be very simple to avoid this if ALL state DMVs files would flag stolen V.I.N.s when someone tried to register it.

I just read the law posted on the link. That law doesn't really have much for teeth as it is a misdemeanor for first offense. Seems pretty obvious that some judge or law maker in OK. felt like they got burned on an old car and are trying to plug holes. SOMEONE with some clout got that law enacted. It allows for additional civil action to recover "damages" which is probably the real reason behind the law.

Mopar fender tags for 68 and older don't have the V.I.N. on them so unless you have a broadcast sheet, window sticker, or IBM card to cross reference the "hidden numbers" (Sales Order numbers)to the V.I.N. how could you PROVE what fender tag belongs on which car in the case of 68 and older Mopar cars?

Up until this OK law NO STATE has ever recognized anything other than the combination of legal title and V.I.N. plate as legal identifiers for vehicles.

This OK law also has exceptions for removal for restoration, which is typically when the monkey business begins. Who is going to be charged with the lose of a trim tag during restoration? My guess is that at least 75% of them are lost by body shops. Some are misplaced and forgotten when a nervious seller removes it for safe keeping. How do you know who and when removed one? How are you going to prove that one is a reproduction and who and when it was done unless someone that was involved in it admits to it? Good luck in that case.
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