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Dog427435 03-20-2007 11:59 PM

427 Mystery Engine
 
For drag racing the 1963 Chevys came with the new RPO-Z-11, the hot 427 that looked like the 409.
But the NASCAR 409 was dumped for a new engine that was not an RPO item, it was dubbed the Mk II. It was an all new everything, staggered-valve competition engine. The splayed-valve heads soon became known as the "Porcupine Heads". The engine was unique and required all new castings poured at the engine plant in Tonawanda, NY. The Mark II displaced 396 cubic inches. But due to a rule change by NASCAR in November 1962 which increased to a new limit of 7 liters the engine was redesigned to a longer stroke producing 427 cubic inches. This engine became known as the Mark IIS. The Mark IIS later became the Mark V introduced in 1965 as the 396 big block.
My father was very into NASCAR and was friends with Louis Clements, who was partners with NASCAR driver Rex White. Rex was the only driver to have a super speedway win with the 409, the Dixie 400 at Atlanta. Rex was one of four drivers in the 1963 Daytona 500 with the 427. Rex finished 14th six laps down. He ran the 427 through the World 600 finishing second. Due to Chevrolet being in and out of racing and a total lack of parts he then switched to Mercury to finish the season.
On a trip to visit the Clements imagine this 15 year old car nuts thrill to be able to go to Rex and Louis's garage to look at his cars!! The Mercury did nothing for me, it was the beat up Chevy with the mystery engine that I fell in love with. I have always been into big blocks since, love the sound of a high revving small block - but sorry no comparison!
I hate to think what happened to this car, probably short tracked to oblivion.

[b] Rex White Garage

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...435/img098.jpg

The Car - left out, just an old race car!!

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...435/img100.jpg

Check out the high dollar for the time tow rig


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...435/img099.jpg

At the Track

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...435/img102.jpg

David Pearson drove the #6 Hemi Dodge out of Cotton Owens Garage

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...435/img097.jpg

SS427 03-21-2007 12:02 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
You photo collection is amazing!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
Rick

PeteLeathersac 03-21-2007 12:14 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Unfrigginbelievable pics Dog!!!.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif
~ Pete

Tarrytown SS427s 03-21-2007 01:53 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Nice pics Glen, did you happen to get a shot of the 427 in the 63?
Steve

Mr70 03-21-2007 02:26 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
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njsteve 03-21-2007 02:56 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Check out the altered wheelbase on the Dodge. The front wheels were moved forward a couple inches. Same result as moving the engine back. If you aint cheatin' you aint trying!

Dog427435 03-21-2007 04:13 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Nice pics Glen, did you happen to get a shot of the 427 in the 63?
Steve

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Steve

Thanks - I know I had some,unfortunately I have not run across any photos of the engine - if I do I'll definitely post it

Glenn

Verne_Frantz 03-21-2007 05:07 PM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Glenn,
Those are great shots. I'm glad that as a 15 year old you were so inclined to use your camera! I've been a student of the development of the MKII and MKIIs for some time, and your knowledge of that engine is impressive. Most people don't realize it began life as a 396 prior to the 7 liter rule. Mr. Dick Keinath, a senior engineer at Chevy, was responsible for the entirely new design. The engine shared the same pan rail as the MKI (409), but nothing else was interchangable with a MKI or the later MKIV.
I hope you find more photos to share. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gifVerne

1967Z28 03-23-2007 08:25 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Those are some incredible photos of Rex's shop and car, the kind you just never see. Thank you very much for sharing them. We all really appreciate it. I had a couple of '61 bubbletop cars earlier in my life and read all I could find on Rex White. He sure did a lot for Chevrolet back then.

-Jon

Fhakya 03-24-2007 03:27 AM

Re: 427 Mystery Engine
 
Yeah, that Dodge is interesting. Note: headlights, windshield wipers, hood scoop,no rollbar (?), what looks a little more like street/drag tires? I don't know much about NASCAR history but did any of the Dodge/Plymouth teams actually run w/ the 2% suspension mods on the speedways?

It looks a little more like a drag car/street car to me. Anyone know any more about it?


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