GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

Reported today that GM will build a new Camaro starting in 2009. The new model will look the concept vehicle! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Patrick

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Where's the build plant gonna' be....have they clarified that today too? .
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~ Pete

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I believe they had narrowed it down to two locations one in the US and one in Canada. I am curious about the selection as well.

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Well, I guess history does repeat itself. Just like the lag
between the original Mustang and the 1967 Camaro, we now see
roughly the same lag between the "new" Mustang and the
proposed 2009 Camaro. When will GM learn? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Well, I guess history does repeat itself. Just like the lag
between the original Mustang and the 1967 Camaro, we now see
roughly the same lag between the "new" Mustang and the
proposed 2009 Camaro. When will GM learn? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Maybe the decision was to let the hoopla die down after the Challenger comes out, and not have to compete for the attention. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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I don't think it would have made any difference otherwise.
GM missed the boat!

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I don't think it would have made any difference otherwise.
GM missed the boat!

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Ditto, the car looked a little bit nicer in person, but it's still ugly - and does not remind me of a 1st gen Camaro.

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Same as it ever was..
Naturally all is forgiven with an LS7 option https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Odds of that happening? 20%

Same as it ever was..

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GM Oshawa has a big, new paint shop and the union gave up major concessions this past spring. I'd be surprised if Oshawa doesn't get the car. Flex manufacturing is coming. Not many of us are entirely clear in what it entails, but it is bound to be GOOD for GM. They are already hiring contract production workers at $27 an hour and few benefits from what I understand. File one grievance and no renewal of the contract seems likely. Very convenient for the company and the union. Pay your dues and be very very quiet. There are a lot of other changes going on here as well such as outsourcing the 400 or so cleaner attendants and sweepers jobs.
I think that the ricer boys like retro as well as we do. Drive by them in a parking lot and watch the rubber necking. Our old car do attract the attention. The new Camaro, as announced last spring, misses the mark. Not enough retro and too limited a market. A Chevelle would have had more practical passemger seating space, for those who wanted practical. Found that out when I had my '68 Firebird. The Chevelle far outsold the Camaro in the old days, so there are a lot of people who might just buy one again for old times sake. All GM lines had an "A" body car so they could once again have a Buick GS, Pontiac GTO, and Chevelle SS. As it stands, Buick is left out in the cold. In the musclecar era, the "A" body cars changed every 2-3 years giving the retro people more of a variety to choose from. They would have '66-'67, '68-'69, and then '70-'72.The Camaro basically had the '67-'69 first generation and then the second generation to choose from, limiting the retro variety that GM will have to work with. Lastly, why would GM want to compete directly with Ford for the same market. A Chevelle would still be retro but appeal to a slightly different group with enough overlap that they wouldn't miss the mark even if the Chevelle didn't turn out the be as popular as a Camaro would have been. Then again I do have some Chevelle tendencies and am slightly biased. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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It's coming out a little later than I thought it would. As for the looks of the car, I personally don't care that much for the retro thing, it gives you nowhere to go in the future. Will the new Mustang turn into the new Mustang II in 2-3 years. If so, that would be perfect for GM since nobody will want that Mustang and a new Camaro will be showing up. If you want a car that looks like something older, go buy the older car and put the modern stuff in it yourself. 75% of the new Mustangs on the road in my area are 6 cyl cars so there's nothing exciting about that. I'd take an LS2 or LS7 Camaro over a 6 cyl retro Mustang any day. The new Challenger will be stuck in the same place as the new Mustang, where do you go next with the design?