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Tommy_Mathison 06-23-2005 07:30 PM

fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
heres my problem: i have the original smooth bottom air cleaner for my 69 z28 but the horn is pretty beat up. i have about a million service replacement air cleaners with perfect horns but i am clueless https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif on how to swap them over. has anyone here ever done this or know anyone who can do it? any help is apriciated. thanks alot guys

tom

KevinW 06-23-2005 08:54 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
Carefully grind the welds of the horn to remove. Grind the revers side of air cleaner on the good horn. Clean mating surfaces and ensure you have a nice tight fit between them. Then use a thin coat of the metal glue (like they use on body sheet metal). clamp and clean any residue before it sets. paint. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

njsteve 06-23-2005 09:38 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
Hi Kevin, nice to see you on the site. I am trying to fix the same problem on my Trans Am air cleaner. I have a good snorkel to replace the run-over one. Do you have a brand name or supplier for the proper adhesive? -NJSteve

John Brown 06-23-2005 09:45 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
I have the same problem, but the snout on mine was cut off. I gently drilled the spot welds out on mine.

Did any other air cleaners use a snout the same as a 69 Camaro cowl air cleaner?

Lastly, why not just spot weld the new snout on like the original??

njsteve 06-23-2005 11:20 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
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why not just spot weld the new snout on like the original??

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I would think it's rather difficult to spot weld like the original was attached, as the metal is so thin and easily melted into oblivian.

MIKEYPARTS 06-24-2005 12:18 AM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
SOME KENT PART 3S FOR ADHESIVE
P10637 FAST SET PANEL SEALER ADHESEIVE
P10638 PANEL ADHEESIVE
KT12577 METAL BONDING ADHESIVE
KT12578 METAL PATCH PANEL ADHESIVE
3M
08115 PANEL BONDER
08177 EPOXY
08101 STUCTURAL ADHESIVE
MIKE

KevinW 06-24-2005 05:19 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
Steve, I usually post over on TC and lurk here, since I don't have a "super-car" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif. If I can help here, then I post. Hope all is well with you. Been a busy and trying summer so far. Have not gotten anything done.

I was given free tickets to the K&N supernationals and went last Sunday, that was fun! Sat in the hospiltality tent with Tim Wilkerson's Funny car and watched them take the car apart because he did not advance to the 2nd round (too bad). Tim talked to us about bobbling the pre stage and stage lights because of a sticky hand brake. They I watched the ESPN show later the night and saw it .240 light https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif I was amazed at the size of the intake valves https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif . My youngest met Erica Enders (she did not advance either), which was nice since she loved the Disney novie about Erica.

July 29 Jackson cruise night is being visited by Car Craft for an article if you want to take a drive down. The Jackson cruise AVERAGED 1600 cars per night last year! Here is a pic.

http://carcraft.com/eventcoverage/116_0503_cruz/

http://www.fossilscarclub.com/cruisenight.html

http://www.fototime.com/1DAF58A8CF1B699/standard.jpg

Back to the snout problem, I bought some stuff from Eastwood, but I do not recommend it. Use the 3M stuff that Mike posted.

John, GM used the snout on a lot of cars during 69-72, but they have to come from a manual trans car, which makes them rare. Even 67-68s are close, but sometimes they were mounted upside-down, so the snout faces up instead of down. no prob, just reverse it. Keep hunting swap meets and ebay. Last resort is find a repro cheap and harvest the horn. If you drill through the spot welds, it is fine, but you just have to fill and smooth (outside and inside)more to get the correct "look".

Steve is right about the metal, it caves under heat. lowest MIG setting just blows through.

Good luck!

njsteve 06-25-2005 02:53 AM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
Kevin, That looks like an amazing cruise. How early do you have to get there to get a spot? I dont think there's enough gas stations between my house and the lot to drive the Hemi, so I may have to trailer. Is there any place to park a trailer nearby?

KevinW 06-25-2005 04:16 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
Steve, we got there last night at 4:45 and the spots we filling up fast. Yes there is a lot of trailered cars that show up (mostly drag cars). Someone has trailered rails to the cruise https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif. The trailer parking fills up fast, so get there by 5. Another alternative, is to bring the trailer to my house or a friends then drive over. It's about 5-7 miles away. Your tank has that much gas https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif You will still need the day off. They were expecting 2,000 cars last night, seemed like 1,500 though.

We did not get there early enough to beat out others for the prime parking places. we are getting there by 3:30 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif next time.

jimbo 06-25-2005 07:59 PM

Re: fixing air cleaner horn, i need your help
 
Some of the panel bond adhesives are kind of pricey and require a special aplicator gun. Especially since you are only talking a small spot.Best bet may be to stop by a local body shop and see if the can do it for you.Maybe take some pics of the car and they wont charge you.


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