COPO vs M & O Mopar
 

Copo cars it's very similar to M-code Mopar
1969 M-code mopar Barracuda-Dart-Road 6Bbl-R/T Six-Pak
It's more (Civilian)(Streetable)than the O code Mopar
The M-code for Mopar =Spªcial engine
The O-code for Mopar =Super Stock
The O-code car it's not realy streetable.
What's is your opinion about this.
COPO car is comparable to M-code or O-code Mopar.

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Is the "O" car the Hemi cars?

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Yes the O cars is the Hemi Super Super Stock
Belvedere RO23 Coronet WO23 Barracuda B0 Dart LO
The second letter of the VIN O is for Super Stock.

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With the low number of M code Cudas & Darts produced in 69 they should be the Copos of Mopars IMO, BUT, they just don't hold the mystique. The "O code" hemi cars are in a different category altogether. There is no direct comp to the Copos.

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I agree
But Bigger production of M-code in B/Body
Typical match ZL1 VS M- Road and Yenko Camaro VS M- Bee SixPak

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Estimated production for M-Code Mopar in 69
358* Cuda
640* Dart GTS
1,907* Bee
1,432* Road
and similar to COPO no ragtop M-code.

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I don't know where you got those figures, but, the Cudas & Darts were nowhere near that high from my sources. Maybe some Mopar experts can chime in?

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sixtiesmuscle, the counts look correct except the Cuda, I show 340 M code automatic Cudas shipped. Galen could have come up with another 18 cars since I last researched this. Same goes for the Dart GTS, 640 shipped and all were automatics. Option code A13 Engine Conversion Pkg 440 1- 4bbl. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img] ............RatPack...............

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Looking in a Mopar Muscle magazine article by Galen Govier called "By the Numbers" it does show the 69 M-code motor numbers as posted.

It is the 68 M code cars that were much less in numbers. The 68 Dart 440 "GSS" (Grand Spaulding Special) built by Dodge/Hurst was exclusive for Mr Norm with 48 built, 6 surviving today. There were no 68 440 Cuda's on Galen's list.

"Mr Norm's" 68 GSS 440 Hurst Dart was a "sleeper" street car that was overshadowed by 68 Hurst Hemi Darts in recognition. But, I would not hesitate to say that I believe the 68 GSS 440 Hurst Dart would give my 427 Yenko Nova a run for the money at the strip. They were both big blocks with similar body weight. With 6 surviving 68 GSS 440 Hurst Dart's exist, it is of similiar rarity as the 427 Yenko Nova as well.

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Was the M code a special order car?
In general, there were 3 ways to build factory hi performance cars. 1) regular production order, 2) special production order, 3) off site vendor production.
The Hemi Dart/Bcuda, SS AMC, 429 Mustang and others were done by outside vendors. The ZL1/L88 Corvette, LS6 Chevelle, L72 passenger, L89, L78, Z/28, and others were very hi po cars but still done RPO. What is unique about the 427 COPOs, and LT1 Nova is that they were built by special order production in-house. Almost like an undercover operation with no special ID (not even SS), and little dealer info. Super Stock drag cars coming down the line hidden among the 6cly grandma cars. In my opinion, Chevy probably only wanted to make about 50 of each to satisfy NHRA Super Stock rules. Along came Don Yenko who said "I don't want 50 L72s .....I want 500...I can slap on some stripes and sell them as an sYc"
I don't know a lot about the M codes but I think they were regular production not done as secretive as COPOs.