piston dome size need help
 

Im building a 454 with a set of 049 open chamber heads. I currently have flat top pistons in it. I have a forged cross drilled crank in it now. I want to put in a high lift cam. But the pistons are my hang up i want to go at least with some sort of dome piston, but i dont have a clue on how to figure it out. Thank you. Oh by the way the heads have been done i was told they will handle a .700 lift cam but i need a good piston. Thanks

Re: piston dome size need help
 

Ok, Loaded question here and i will try to answer it with a few questions

1-You need to decide on compression ratio that you want (cc volume of head chamber,head gasket thickness and choose dome volume of piston )

2-You need to choose a cam and mock up short block to check valve to piston clearance.

3-There is no set up that you can buy that will guarantee no valve to piston interference due to the following inconsistencies,Deck of block machined to "zero",Cylinder heads machined many times for straightness,cam shaft timing (580" lift cams can have enough overlap to crash pistons),head gasket thickness and a few other things to consider.

Keep in mind that if the pistons say they are 11to1 the true engine compression is not 11to1 due to above stated variables.

Sorry for long post but hope it helps.

Re: piston dome size need help
 

Do you know the chamber c.c's? You'll need to know so you can calculate how much dome volume you'll need to achieve your desired compression ratio.

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I've had very good luck with Speed Pro 7060P or TRW 2399F pistons when used with #781 or #049 oval port cylinder heads. Pump gas friendly and I've ran .650 street rollers with plenty of piston/valve clearance. It's a very popular piston for your particular cylinder heads.

Re: piston dome size need help
 

Make sure you get rid of those small valves.

Re: piston dome size need help
 

Thanks, guys i want to be able to run on pump gas. The head cc is 113 factory, dont know about the head gasket thicknes and the piston volume. Whatever piston i can get to fit. lol

Re: piston dome size need help
 

You are going about your quest Bass Ackwards.

You need to first determine what you expect to get out of your engine, which is based on many factors such as how you plan to use it and get out of it? RPM range? HP and TQ level? etc?

The only working parameter which you provided is "pump gas".

Once you have determined the above you can decide on a combination that will best achieve your objective.

Re: piston dome size need help
 

Wiseco makes a pretty good piston also.

Re: piston dome size need help
 

Used to build alot of "781-049" big oval port Large valve 454 and 489 ci Motors for people, 15-20 years ago. Used the TRW Ls6 replacement piston (or speedpro equiv ), 3/8 truck rods ARP rod bolts, cast or forged crank ( Cast 8lbs lighter plenty strong and cheap) with felpro Blue .041 head gasket. end up true comp. 9.8-10.1 range. You do have to releive the edge of the chamber about .030-.040 thou.. Hits very edge of dome on some heads due to core shift( always check!!!)

The 489-496 motors I would mill about .085-.100 off the deck face of the piston(not dome) to acheive a postive +.005 out of the hole, then run the same .041 head gasket for optimum quench of .035 thou. then run the Comp cam 288AR solid roller .623 lift. Super torque and almost 600hp. <span style="font-weight: bold">CHEAP!!!!!</span> Street monsters

Re: piston dome size need help
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are going about your quest Bass Ackwards.

You need to first determine what you expect to get out of your engine, which is based on many factors such as how you plan to use it and get out of it? RPM range? HP and TQ level? etc?

The only working parameter which you provided is &quot;pump gas&quot;.

Once you have determined the above you can decide on a combination that will best achieve your objective. </div></div>

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