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RUQUIK 04-29-2008 06:13 PM

Manifold coating
 
Need help on the best coating for stock exhaust manifolds on a high end restoration. Looking for closest correct color. Any ideas or preferences?

Thanks

68l30 04-29-2008 08:23 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
IMHO....Don't put a thing on them. Rust is correct.Find a nice set and glass bead,tumble them, then leave them to mother nature. That gray cast paint, coating, whatever just looks like a$$ on a resto.... Flame away guy's!


Steve

ORIGLS6 04-29-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
Good point! If we could all go back to 1968-70 and walk through the Dealership lots, we'd find rust on virtually every exhaust manifold on every new car there. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

kwhizz 04-29-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
If you want to keep the fresh casting look and not the Painted look......Use Calyx......available from resto supply houses.......keeps the casting look for quite a while, when it starts to go away, rub some more on and they look fresh again...........

Ken

68 Vert 04-29-2008 09:10 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
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If you want to keep the fresh casting look and not the Painted look......Use Calyx......available from resto supply houses.......keeps the casting look for quite a while, when it starts to go away, rub some more on and they look fresh again...........

Ken

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I agree, good stuff.

Mike

CamarosRus 04-29-2008 09:14 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
In this day and age, many/most of the high dollar restos are "over restored" and generally that is the way many of the owners, enthusiasts enjoy seeing them. Most people enjoy seeing them the way they came off the end of the assy line, before the rust started...........

One method of preventing your manifolds from rusting is to have them coated with a thin "SKIN" of aluminum.

There are many companies around the country that do ALUMINUM FLAME SPRAYING. This in turn would be coated with VHT high temp cast blast to acheive the desired cosmetic look. This is not rocket science or one companys secret formula.

My .02

ORIGLS6 04-29-2008 09:39 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
I have Calyx on my Chevelle and it's starting to wear thin. Now I'm thinking I'll just let it go for a while and let some of the rust peek through. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Xplantdad 04-29-2008 09:39 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
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If you want to keep the fresh casting look and not the Painted look......Use Calyx......available from resto supply houses.......keeps the casting look for quite a while, when it starts to go away, rub some more on and they look fresh again...........

Ken

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I agree, good stuff.

Mike

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AND....It smells good too! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

Chris396 04-29-2008 10:06 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
I'm having Jerry M do mine right now. The wait is long though. He's busy and there is a 6-8 week turn around time.

x77-69z28 04-29-2008 10:38 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
jerry did mine about 5 years ago. they look like brand new.

CamarosRus 04-29-2008 11:09 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
I'd be interested to know the cost of this "special" treatment that you are waiting 6-8 weeks for.....

I can have flame sprayed/aluminized manifolds done in Seattle THIS week.....This coating is approx .008 thick
and the vendor alledges it doesnt change the complexion of the cast iron. I would then include a can of VHT 1200' Cast Iron paint, so that you can color to replicate the factory look.

TDW 04-29-2008 11:42 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
Chuck...Give Jerry a call and ask him what he charges for the job. Tell him about your connection and see what his response is. 410-781-0418 is his number.

CamarosRus 04-29-2008 11:59 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
My offer and suggestions are in no way meant as a connection to anything that J.M. performs in his business.
My comments are not intended to deminish any service that J.M. offers

I am only offering alternative ideas and suggestions.

Mr. Chevy 04-30-2008 12:30 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
Mine were ceramic coated and painted with Eastwood's Manifold grey paint.. They look very nice.. I have had them done about 2 years now and have had no rust issues.. I like them looking this way..

When they start to rust I will let them go and then they will look "correct" as it did back in 1970 & discussed earlier in the thread here. Mine will just stay painted and fresh looking a little longer due to being ceramic coated and painted, longer than what came out of the factory!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Rich

CamarosRus 04-30-2008 12:34 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
Curious to SEE or Read, as to how Ceramic Coating (like Jet Hot ???) changed the complexion of cast iron......how it changed the porous look and rough texture of sand casting ?????

Thanks,

Mr. Chevy 04-30-2008 12:34 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
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IMHO....Don't put a thing on them. Rust is correct.Find a nice set and glass bead,tumble them, then leave them to mother nature. That gray cast paint, coating, whatever just looks like a$$ on a resto.... Flame away guy's!


Steve

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Thanks alot buddy.. I guess you are saying my manifolds look like a$$ 'cause they are coated... Geez what a mean thing to say!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

JK!!

Rich

COPO CARTEL 04-30-2008 01:06 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
Jerry M. can do it as well as the intake, does great work. Cost is approx. 400 for a set I think.

JohnZ 04-30-2008 04:02 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
Jerry did mine seven years ago, and they still look great (photo below). I've had good luck on other cars with Eastwood's "Factory Gray" coating, after lightly blasting to get a clean surface; excellent durability, no touch-up required. Calyx requires regular touch-up, never dries, and judges don't like it - it rubs off on anything that touches it (like white shirt sleeves https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif ).

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-...0-RHexhman.JPG

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kwhizz 04-30-2008 04:58 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC04408.jpg


Calyx..............Judges, Judges........we don't need No Stink'in Judges.............LOL

Ken

bkhpah 04-30-2008 04:59 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
That's sexy!..BKH https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Xplantdad 04-30-2008 06:29 AM

Re: Manifold coating
 
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That's sexy!..BKH https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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And smells good! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Bill Rose 04-30-2008 03:53 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
I've had Jerry M do 3 of my Chevelles and I wouldn't do it any other way. I tried them all, and was always touching up, or completely removing them, sand blasting, re-painting, etc. Since I discovered the re-skinning process, I've never had to redo any of them. I have the smog systems/tubes on the cars, and the last thing I want to do is redo manifolds.
http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/68_eng.jpg

ORIGLS6 04-30-2008 05:33 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC04408.jpg


Calyx..............Judges, Judges........we don't need No Stink'in Judges.............LOL

Ken

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BTW, that makes a pretty cool desktop. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif

mrrec 04-30-2008 05:47 PM

Re: Manifold coating
 
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CHEVROLET ORANGE if it's a BB. I have them ceramic coated grey, then CI grey paint, then Chev orange. When the orange burns off the lower portions you have a near perfect orig look. See attached LS6 photo and Z16 photo down the page here: http://www.z16chevelle.com/restoration%20photos.htm

Exhaust manifolds were installed BEFORE engine paint on big blocks. This is proven by several low mile orig paint engines (cars) I've owned and numerous I've seen as well as several color factory photos. Also shows in 60s assy line photos and assy sequence descriptions. Sorry grey guys......
Dave

CamarosRus 08-22-2022 10:22 PM

Any different thoughts on Exhaust Manifold coatings for over restored show cars in 2022....

I believe the well know shop that "reskins" exhaust manifolds is having them FLAME SPRAYED with.......................

Aluminum– Extremely durable coating that provides total corrosion protection and significant life improvement over conventional barrier coatings...........
And Then Top Coating with VHT Aerosol Paint for the correct Cosmetic "LOOK"

A customer told (on a forum) of how he received a can of VHT paint in the box upon
the return of his "Reskinned" Manifolds.....

1967 4K 08-23-2022 01:01 AM

I had Jerry M. “Reskin” mine back in 2004. As stated above a can of VHT paint came with them and instructions to spray them and heat them to 600 degrees for a period of time, don’t remember the time.
My friend had an old cooking oven in his shop so we used it turned up as high as it would go which was about 450. My manifolds to this day look great. I would recommend Jerry’s work.

CamarosRus 08-24-2022 06:45 PM

Anyone,
1) Know the current cost of having a pair of exhaust manifolds "Reskinned"
or other wise Arc Sprayed (Electricity) or Flame Sprayed (Oxy/Acetelyne)

2) Ive read about VHT 1200 degree cast blast & POR15 has a Cast Looking Product
Which one has the closest look to original Cast Iron ?????


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