Pertronix Ignitions
 

Any one have any experience with Pertronix......Installed their Ignitor II conversion kits in the Biscayne and it was fine.....I changed Intake Manifolds over the weekend (Put a 069 on) and when I went to start it I have no spark....Power to the coil but nothing else....Don't even know how or what to check next https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif......Should'a stuck with the points I guess https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif
Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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<font color="blue">Ken,
We sell a good amount of those with no problems.
Check the air gap from the magnet to the wheel. Maybe jared somthing taking it out &amp; in.
That is the only thing I have seen, outside of a burnt unit.
The P2 even has a auto shut off if you leave the key on too long.
Good luck,
Mike

P.S. If you can't fix it ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif ... the car that is. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif</font>

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Ken,
I tried one of those and had nothing but problems. I'm sure I set it up properly but the engine would miss and backfire when starting or shutting it off. I went back to points. A set of points and condensor in the glove box is cheap insurance on a trip and easy to change if needed, as opposed to carrying a spare Pooptronics. One less thing to worry about.

Verne

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Mine works great, it took away a low rpm surge that I had. I tried one of the Petronix units before doing a distributor rebuild.

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I personally can't see what real advantge those ignitions have. My Z goes to 6,800 easy and my race car 30 years ago went to 7,500 with a single point distributor and no problems. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Use a Crane unit and it works flawlessly thus far, but will keep a set of points in the glove box, you never know

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I have had good luck with the Crane unit. The built in rev limiter is nice to. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Be careful of the rev limiter in the Crane units...I know a couple of folks that have had issues with it kicking in sporadically. As for the Pertronix, they're good when they work...but I've been stranded several times in a couple different cars and eventually took it out.

Sammy, you'll be glad to know, a certain Pure Stocker tested a Pertronix versus points system...the points made more power! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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I have the Ignitor 2 set up with the matching coil. My inital setup had no issues until I had the positive battery cable popped off and the coil unloaded through the module. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif Can you say fried bakealite??? No issues with my stuff, just have to treat it like a diesel with glowplugs. Turn the key and let the coil saturate before cranking!!!

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Be careful of the rev limiter in the Crane units...I know a couple of folks that have had issues with it kicking in sporadically. As for the Pertronix, they're good when they work...but I've been stranded several times in a couple different cars and eventually took it out.

Sammy, you'll be glad to know, a certain Pure Stocker tested a Pertronix versus points system...the points made more power! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Ken,
If you can track down the parts... K66... with updated electronics.


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I use a Mallory Unilite setup, never a problem. Will install the same on Benjamin's engine.

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I use a Mallory Unilite setup, never a problem. Will install the same on Benjamin's engine.

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I have one of those in the garage. Does work very well.. Hmm.. Not stock though. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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I use a Mallory Unilite setup, never a problem. Will install the same on Benjamin's engine.

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I have one of those in the garage. Does work very well.. Hmm.. Not stock though. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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I know! However, these products are allowed and even encouraged with the pure stock drag racing community.

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Be careful of the rev limiter in the Crane units...I know a couple of folks that have had issues with it kicking in sporadically. As for the Pertronix, they're good when they work...but I've been stranded several times in a couple different cars and eventually took it out.

Sammy, you'll be glad to know, a certain Pure Stocker tested a Pertronix versus points system...the points made more power! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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I wonder if Pete G has seen that problem in his Yenko. I know he uses the Crane unit. At least he was using it when he recommended it to me. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Dru, what do you use?


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I know! However, these products are allowed and even encouraged with the pure stock drag racing community.


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Do they use rev limiters? If so, what kind?

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Not sure about rev limiters....

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The Pertronix systems were unreliable in my experience. IMO the single-wire M&amp;H ignition kit is the best retrofit kit on the market. For me, it's M&amp;H or points, or MSD if I don't care what it looks like.

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I have the Crane unit with a Pertronix coil. Crane has a built in rev limiter, all you need is a screw driver.

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In my old '70 Camaro I used a GM HEI unit because the pertonix was said to be faulty. Never really needed more of an answer than that... never investigated either.

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The Pertronix systems were unreliable in my experience. IMO the single-wire M&amp;H ignition kit is the best retrofit kit on the market. For me, it's M&amp;H or points, or MSD if I don't care what it looks like.

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I have Pertronix in a couple of cars and love it. No problems, knock hard on wood, yet. Does the crain unit have the total oe look that the pertronix does? If so,where can you get it, and what cars can I use it on.

JOHN

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John- The Crane unit is just a module. Goes in your distributor to replace the points just like the Pertronix unit. The rev limiter is built right into it and has a pot to dial in. I got mine thru Jegs . Fits Chevy and Ford but not sure about Mopar...

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Be careful of the rev limiter in the Crane units...I know a couple of folks that have had issues with it kicking in sporadically. As for the Pertronix, they're good when they work...but I've been stranded several times in a couple different cars and eventually took it out.

Sammy, you'll be glad to know, a certain Pure Stocker tested a Pertronix versus points system...the points made more power! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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I used the orig dist for my 68 camaro 427 425 hp on the dyno
took a reading and printed the results. Then I put in a petronix in the dist.Took he enjine to 6000 rpm same as the orig dist and printed the results. I compared them and could not belive the torque diff and horsepower diff between the orig dist and the petronix. The petronix gave me 25 more hp
and a lot more torque.
I am away on vacation and and I dont have the stats with me or I would print them
PJ

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John- The Crane unit is just a module. Goes in your distributor to replace the points just like the Pertronix unit. The rev limiter is built right into it and has a pot to dial in. I got mine thru Jegs . Fits Chevy and Ford but not sure about Mopar...

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What about my beloved Ponchos? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I used the orig dist for my 68 camaro 427 425 hp on the dyno
took a reading and printed the results. Then I put in a petronix in the dist.Took he enjine to 6000 rpm same as the orig dist and printed the results. I compared them and could not belive the torque diff and horsepower diff between the orig dist and the petronix. The petronix gave me 25 more hp
and a lot more torque.
I am away on vacation and and I dont have the stats with me or I would print them

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Not saying I don't believe you, as I could see a 5 or even 10hp gain/loss, but 25hp is a pretty big step...is adding the Pertronix the only change you made? What kinda shape was the points setup in??

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Well...........It ended up that the Coil (Pertronix) was the problem.........Replaced it with a new unit and it started right up..........Had a couple of hundred miles on it so it was probably time to replace it anyway.......LOL

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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"Had a couple of hundred miles on it so it was probably time to replace it anyway.......LOL"

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Like Sam and Rob, our L72 and L78 engines have run just fine with points. Our L78 car came with and HEI when I bought it and ran fine. When the HEI died, I installed a regular Delco points distributor. It's good enough for any rpm that our engines need to turn. A stock L72, L78, or LS6 probably doesn't have to turn more than 6K rpm for best quarter mile times anyway. I like to keep things simple.