THE LAST??? 1967 Z-28
 

This is the last production dated 1967 Z-28 known to exist. Of the 200 or so 67 Z's in Jerry Macniesh's registry, I believe this is the only 07C car known and most likely the only one ever made. Just a few hundred cars from the last VIN.

Original white car w/black stripes , low option... cowl plenum cut-out in firewall.

This car shows 17,000 original miles. I have no original paperwork. Selling as a roller..no motor or trans...but otherwise mostly complete...original front discs now changed to drums(this was a common drag racing change as the discs created too much drag)...car has an original 12 bolt w/the bracket(although the bar is missing)..4.10 posi...but not # matching or original to the car...

body extremely solid with original quarters and perfect floors and trunk and rockers,etc....resto. began..needs finished....easy finish...



will be listing on Ebay Sunday...buy-it-now 45k as roller.

Will offer, (to buyer of car only), NOS Smokey Yunick ,mostly complete, MO302 motor that was purchased at his auction. Motor has original GM "born-with" MO assembly stamp but was never VIN'd. Car w/motor 55k buy-it-now.

thought I'd offer it here for a few days first... Thanks Yenko.net...

max

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07C cowl tag

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What are the dates on the MO engine?

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heres a pic of the stamping...off the top of my head, I don't know any of the other dates...but i can tell you what I remember when I bought it...I will check the numbers if needed...I believe everything is correct and dated correct, less the distributor https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif...and for some reason I believe the intake was not correct off the top of my head...(both 69's) but according to the docs. I recieved with the motor, everything else is correct, dated and new...carb, heads, etc...apparently Smokeys motors were torn apart and rebuilt before the auction...

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Here is a pic of the whole motor...it is actually as I purchased it with the Smokey docs. and all...

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Any body pics??

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Close but not close enough.

There is a Z/28-RS nearby within 100 #s from the last '67 produced at Norwood.

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Yes William..but that is an 07B car I believe...I believe there are a few 07 B Z cars...I was told there are only a handful of total 07C cars known in the CRG database....but please correct me if I am wrong... I do not have access to the database(or any database for that matter)..I'm going by what I was told a few years ago by Jerry....I assume my car was held up on the assembly line for some reason?? Don't know...??? Do you know for sure that this other car is an 07C car?? I'd like to post my ad on Ebay accurately...Thanks, Max

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What matters is the VIN as that establishes when the car was built. I do not believe this car is in any db.

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I bought the car totally apart and with the whole rear section stripped to bare metal... I etch primed and urethane primed most of the rear portion...The lower rear quarters just behind the wheels have minor rust issues...(see pic)...I believe the only rust issues with the car are these 2 small spots...this car is one of the most solid cars I've owned....the quarter wheel lips are very nice and solid... the floors, trunk, shock towers, rockers, etc. are excellent.These pics I took a few years ago, but I really have not touched the car since...other than moving it here and there. I am searching high and low for the parts to the car...heheh..still missing a few.But, I will be bolting the car together tomorrow and Sunday and posting better pics on Ebay also...


hope these pics help a bit anyway...for now...the first few are as purchased...

max

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as purchased...other parts...

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current condition...

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current...rocker

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current drivers side

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current...floors

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drivers side quarter...note small patch needed behind wheel ..similar issue other side..but probabaly half as small...this is the worst rust issue with car as far as I can tell...

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BTW...I always thought that maybe this car was held up on the assembly line because of the 5C code on the cowl tag...this is the shoulder harness option that is even rarer than the Z option itself in 1967!!!! Therefore the 07C cowl tag date...just a guess???????????

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What matters is the VIN as that establishes when the car was built. I do not believe this car is in any db.

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as I stated...I believe this is the last production dated 67 Z-28 known...not that that matters either...hehehe...umless you or someone else knows of another car with a cowl tag date of 07C or later???

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BTW...I always thought that maybe this car was held up on the assembly line because of the 5C code on the cowl tag...this is the shoulder harness option that is even rarer than the Z option itself in 1967!!!! Therefore the 07C cowl tag date...just a guess???????????

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Not sure what you mean https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

My car is an 05D with deluxe shoulder seat belts and it wasnt held up buy that. It will be interesting for me to see what your car goes for. I havent seen a project sell for quite a while. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Hey Jonesy...I'll explain...but, believe me I am no expert at all...so Please correct me if I am wrong..

I can't seem to find the book, but I remember reading that the Shoulder harness option was only put in 400 plus cars...which makes it rarer than the Z option itself...

apparently, there are atleast 2 known (that I have heard of)67 Z-28's with VIN numbers after this car, but both are 07B cowl tag dates..(not sure about this other car that has been mentioned here as far as the cowl tag date)...so I am just guessing that there must have been some reason for my car to sit on the assembly line while other cars passed by...I'm not really sure of the order of the VIN tag, cowl tag installation and all that..

so therefore I was thinking that perhaps GM only made a very handful of the shoulder harnesses for the model year..and they were searching for parts at the end...or maybe with so few made, they just did not work on the car for a few days waiting for the shoulder belts to arrive..which would have pushed it into the next week for the trim tag..???

But, now that I think of it...it probably got the trim tag first before the belts...right?? Is that How the workers knew what to put on???

Like I said..its just a theory...I'd like to know what others think...Any better ideas????

I believe the deluxe shoulder belts were super rare also...I guess your cowl date is in line with your VIN on your car?? Or is it a little late?? Your car sounds sweeeetttt!!!! What color?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Thanks, max...

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I need to state that the owner of the highest known VIN '67 Z/28 known has never claimed it is the last and likely could not care less.

Body tag date is the date the tag was processed at Fisher Body; there was more than one machine producing them. In our CRG db which is in VIN order, 07B and 07C tag dates are interspersed. His car was built after yours, simple as that.

As there were a number of '67s built after his one or more of them could have been a Z/28. Of the 602 reportedly built less than half are accounted for. That is an enormous margin of error.

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Hey Max...William is correct...and given the build process, your car wouldn't be assigned a later body number and ealier VIN due to a lack of seat belts. The VIN determines when the car was built, not the trim tag date.

I'm with you Jonesy...a Z project hasn't sold in quite some time. The last two publicly offered were no sales...Good luck Max! White is one of my favorite Z colors https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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William and Zedder,

Could both of you be a little more specific on the assignment of the VIN at the Fisher "Hole" on the Chevrolet side?

Please detail your opinion on the '67 Build sequence at Fisher, the lines that staged the bodys built immediatly on the Chevrolet side and why they were arranged in that manner, and finally the VIN assignment and the build sequence lock for final production.

Remember we are doing the '67 thing here not '68's or '69's.

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The key is the body tag meant nothing to Chevrolet; they did not refer to it and assembled cars via body and chassis broadcast sheets. They did have to share scheduling info however and Chevy likely dictated when a certain dealer order was built. Due to the July 4 holiday Fisher probably released all the orders it had [generating the body tags] but started them per the Chevy schedule. Chevrolet assigned VINs in order as bodies were received from Fisher. Cars built later than either of the two in this discussion have 07B tags.

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whhhattt?????

William and Yedder,

Correcr me if I'm wrong because I'm a little brain dead...

I have to assume that the cars got VIN'd in numerical order coming down the line...and at some point my car got taken off the line and other cars with later VINs passed by and got the cowl tag in 07B week. And that my car was held for a while for whatever reason until the following week when the cowl tag was made for the car...is this true??? And if so, why?? I guess it could have been anything...any missing part or paint..or???

So, the bottom line....are there any other known 67 Z's with an 07C cowl date??

Maybe only the GM Gods know this one!!! heheh

BTW....I am probably the most curious about if the car sells or not...and how much!!

Thanks Guys!!!

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Hey Mark, don't you like red...w/white..better??? hehehe
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Thanks again, Max

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http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

This article from CRG should answer all your questions about VIN assingment.

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Your body may well have been a later produced Fisher Body... but was into Chevrolet Assembly earlier... what this means is that the other cars with the earlier Fisher cowl tags but later Chevrolet vins were the cars that were held up...

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"And that my car was held for a while for whatever reason until the following week when the cowl tag was made for the car...is this true???"

Therein lies the problem. The body tag was the first part made to a specific dealer order, installed on the cowl by Fisher body. Chevy never touched it.

Your car wasn't held up at all. The Z/28 with the earlier tag date but later VIN was.

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The key is the body tag meant nothing to Chevrolet; they did not refer to it and assembled cars via body and chassis broadcast sheets. They did have to share scheduling info however and Chevy likely dictated when a certain dealer order was built. Due to the July 4 holiday Fisher probably released all the orders it had [generating the body tags] but started them per the Chevy schedule. Chevrolet assigned VINs in order as bodies were received from Fisher. Cars built later than either of the two in this discussion have 07B tags.

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Is this your opinion, research, or is this from the CRG's technical article? Where did you get your information?

Again, from my previous post:

"Please detail your opinion on the '67 Build sequence at Fisher, the lines that staged the bodys built immediatly on the Chevrolet side and why they were arranged in that manner, and finally the VIN assignment and the build sequence lock for final production".



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John Z

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John Z did not get to Norwood until well after '67 Production ended.

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So? The process did not change.

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"And that my car was held for a while for whatever reason until the following week when the cowl tag was made for the car...is this true???"

Therein lies the problem. The body tag was the first part made to a specific dealer order, installed on the cowl by Fisher body. Chevy never touched it.

Your car wasn't held up at all. The Z/28 with the earlier tag date but later VIN was.

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Precisely how I saw it William... the 07B's were the held up cars as they arrived at Chevrolet later than his 07C car...

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So? The process did not change.

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Opinion or based on research?

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Exactly.

It is possible that the last 1967 Camaro built at Norwood had an 07B tag.

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ok...so i think I get it now after reading the CRG article...

...the body shells are made and the cowl tags attached each week basically in order....it seems that the second week of July, atleast one other Z body shell was made and then the third week of July my body shell was made....then for some reason, the other car got 'held up' while my car continued down the line to the point of having the VIN assigned...a hundred cars or so later,the other car recieved its VIN...that's interesting...

welll??? do I have it now???

it only takes me a few tries to figure things out...hehehe

Thanks for all the info. guys...

...so I may have the last cowl dated body shell to leave the fisher plant!!! It doesn't really matter to me too much either....I just wanted to find out the real deal before I put some wrong info. in my ad...and what better place... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

..out of curiousity...what is the last known 67 VIN of all the Camaros?? how far from the last car??

Thanks again!!!

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Nope; bodies were not made 'in order'.

Imagine if you will hundreds of body tags [not assembled bodies] and other paperwork in queue at Fisher body. Maybe it was all in a vinyl pouch. Someone in production control at Fisher looks at the Chevrolet assembly schedule for the day/week and releases the appropriate body tag/paperwork to production. Chevy then gets the assembled body when they expect it.

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ay ay ay...hahaha....

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I'm confused...haha...how about this...my cowl tag was made on the third week of July, right??? Therefore, I have the 67 Z-28 with the youngest cowl tag known???? Can we agree on that?? Of course there could always be another out there...

....it seems that a lot of the 'special and high performance' cars were getting built right toward the end of production...not just in 67...is that true??

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thanks again...Max

I started loosely bolting some parts on today, so it looks a little like a car...still searching for a few missing things...but I found atleast 95 % so far...hehe....here's a few pics..