Winter Project...
 

Been doing some winter maintenance on the black 70 L78 4 speed car...getting ready for the Florida Mini-Nats in Orlando. Water pump was going so I got a correct dated unit...decided to take care of a few other things while I was in there. The original fuel pump had a crack in the fitting (too much muscle) had it rebuilt...also going to re-install the original smog pump and hardware. Took some photos of the parts and collected some numbers for reference...if someone needs a shot of something let me know...I'll try to get it. Neat old car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

wilma


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engine stamp on pad

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VIN...


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correct water pump J 18 9 date on 811 pump


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Original smog pump dated 3329 S 1...have all the brackets and bolts...and the "real" fan pulley...still need some plumbing (tubes, hoses, check valves) if anybody has some https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif


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Correct 727 hi-perf fuel pump...rebuilt by Goat Hill...store bought unit next to it.

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Original Harrison 3 core ZD radiator...tank has OO stamp and L for the month...I assume they threw out "I" so that would be Nov/69...I took the tag off and keep it in the file of car stuff...they are so fragile and easy to loose...top rail between tanks is the original harrison piece with the slotted holes where they hung the rad for painting


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Every Nova guys favorite part...the 5 blade fan with "W" stamp https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

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Rick's favorite part...the infamous Hobb's hour meter https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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original front calipers and rotors..

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rear brakes have original drums with GM part numbers...color coding on springs.


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Tom!

Are those 2-piece rotors I see there? I thought they were
phased out in late '69 production. How did a '70 Nova get
a set? Is this unusual?

Steve

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misc.....837 alternator has 9 L 28 date stamp
9204 brake booster dated 342
water pump pulley 3976060AP
291 cylinder heads K 3 9 and J 30 9
418 starter dated 9 L 17

cowl tag is 12C A2 for trim 732 interior 19/19 tuxedo black

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Thanks for sharing the pics Tom. I love seeing the un-restored stuff. Especially the L-78 stuff.

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Tom!

Are those 2-piece rotors I see there? I thought they were
phased out in late '69 production. How did a '70 Nova get
a set? Is this unusual?

This is a 12/69 car...so the parts were made before that...don't know when the transition took place...as far as I know they are original.

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Steve

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How about a picture of that car in my garage? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Very cool pics

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Tom..........Thanks for taking the Time to post the pic's.......Lot's of Info hidden in Pictures........ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gifKen https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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How about a picture of that car in my garage? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Very cool pics

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I'll send you an autographed 8 x 10 glossy you can hang on the wall....that way, you will have a picture of it in your gargage https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

With best regards....wilma


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I got dibs on the Fathom blue one! I want the glove box door autographed though.

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Two-piece rotors were used into the '70 production run of Novas. My car had them, and I've had 70 parts cars with them.

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the mailman told me, "If you hear helicopters overhead, it's because there are homing devices in those USPS buckets you stole!" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

they sure are handy around the garage!

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How about a picture of that car in my garage? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Very cool pics

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I'll send you an autographed 8 x 10 glossy you can hang on the wall....that way, you will have a picture of it in your gargage https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

With best regards....wilma

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif
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I guess that will do https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Great pix. This is FAR more interesting than anything on TV. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

BTW, I'll take one of those autographed photos.........(but how did you train the car to write? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif)

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Made some progress today while I was waiting for my sweetie to return home....got the fuel pump, water pump and smog pump installed. Forgot about the water pump fittings https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif....have to get a couple....the old ones have been in their since Tommy was a young man https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif...ran into a couple of other little things like: petcock on radiator doesn't work...just spins...I guess it's stripped...so off to the shed. By the way, those tower clamps are a pain in the ***....once there on for awhile they are tough to loosen up. Got as far as putting the 5 blade fan back on....next trip I'll try to button it up and then on to cleaning the disc brake hardware and more detailing.

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another..need those w/pump fittings

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and....the smog pump...this is the original pump from the car...never restored..it's really in great shape.


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and....original 837 going back in place. Does that self threading bolt look correct for the battery cable..??? also...does anyone know if this vintage Nova used the U shaped bracket to hold the heater hoses in place...I see it bolted to the alternator bracket in photos of other L78 engines.....can't locate my assembly book.

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last one...


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last one...


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Is that exhaust manifold tapped for the smog tubes?

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Yes it is...there are some flat head type pipe plugs in the holes...these are original dated manifolds from the car...they were in the trunk along with the smog pump when I bought it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif...now all I need is the plumbing.

wilma

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Can u say P - A - T - I - N - A ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

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Yep, cool car. I'd have a hard time deciding which one to steal from his shop: the Black '70 or the Orange Cooler! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif or the butternut '68, or the............... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

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Just installed a new security system for the shop...it is manufactured by Smith and Wesson....works great...hasn't missed yet https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif


wilma

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If it's a later model made in China.......chances are it won't work.............Besides, Those Nu Yawk cars drive with an Accent https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif.........So bringing one back home to the Midwest would be kind of hard.....Even in Roodhouse.....LOL

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Tom, the self threaded bolt looks correct for the negative cable. I believe they had the anchor on the head of them. I have also seen the negative cable bolted to the motor, pass. side. The assembly manual shows both ways but I think technically it bolts down on the motor for the big block. Also it should have the "U" shaped holder/bracket for the two heater hoses that bolts to the alt. bracket...

Car looks great!! Good luck at the NATS!! I would like to get my car there someday..

Rich

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Can u say P - A - T - I - N - A ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

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Patina...that's Spanish for surface rust https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Tom, the self threaded bolt looks correct for the negative cable. I believe they had the anchor on the head of them. I have also seen the negative cable bolted to the motor, pass. side. The assembly manual shows both ways but I think technically it bolts down on the motor for the big block. Also it should have the "U" shaped holder/bracket for the two heater hoses that bolts to the alt. bracket...

Car looks great!! Good luck at the NATS!! I would like to get my car there someday..

Rich

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Rich, here is a photo showing the clamp...69 engine pic...i thought the 68-69 BBcars ahd the neg cable going to the block and the 70 went to the alternator bracket...


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Tom, I would have to double check the assembly manual. I remember there were pictures showing it both ways. Mine(70 car) is bolted to the alt. bracket just like you have yours. I don't have the assembly manual handy it is out in the garage. Tomorrow I can double check it. I'll bet Marlin knows for sure... Seems to me your right and I'm sure if I bolted mine to the alt. bracket I must have done so according to the assembly manual becuase I know I had it out when I was putting the alternator and my smog assembly back on the car..

Rich

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Tom, on page #306 of the 1970 Nova assembly manual it shows the negative battery cable ground being bolted to the passengers side front of the block rather than to the alt. bracket. This shows it for the V8 396 engines.. But on page #307 it shows this cable being bolted to the alt. bracket also for the v8 396 motors. Like I said I remembered it being shown both ways. I have seen it both ways on restored cars.. I guess either way is correct.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Rich

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Look on the bottom of those pages for a revision date & notation Rich..
1970 Chevelle Big Blocks batteries started off being grounded at the block up until 10/31/69,then afterwards they received a special bolt/washer & cable to be attached at the upper Alt.Bkt.from then on.
Most of the 1970 BB vehicles got the new 1970 design upper Alt.Bkt. with the 3rd hole to accept this,but the assemblers continued to ground the Batts at the block,even though the Bkt. hole was there waiting for it.It took awhile for workers to understand it was now more time/cost effective & safer to start grounding these there.