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COPO_Anders 11-09-2007 07:35 PM

The CONVINCER II
 
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To avoid hijacking the NMW thread I think it´s better to start a new one about the Convincer II.

The pic from the NMW catalog.

COPO_Anders 11-09-2007 07:51 PM

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Here is a pic from Raceway News, Raceway Park, Englishtown.

Now guys, start telling the stories about the Convincer II !

NovaMob03 11-09-2007 08:19 PM

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I sent you a PM

4274speed 11-09-2007 08:38 PM

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Anders,Joe Spino from the Neighbor Hood Garage(ESSO Automotive Repair Garage) in Jersey City knows both the owners of the Convincer II 69 Copo Chevelle.Joe is very very well known at Raceway Park Englishtown NJ.He ran the 67 and 69 "Born Free Camaro" with Patty Marchetti.

COPO_Anders 11-09-2007 11:45 PM

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John, any info he could share would be interesting. Can you talk to Joe about it ?

Another pic from Raceway Park Englishtown NJ.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

COPO_Anders 11-09-2007 11:50 PM

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The last one I have from Raceway Park.
I´m going on vacation tomorrow morning and will be gone a little more than a week.
Give me some interesting info to read when I get back.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

COPO_Anders 11-09-2007 11:59 PM

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The Convincer II in Sweden !

That is a factory HemiCuda in the far lane. I think that´s the one that caught fire at Santa Pod, England, some years ago. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

Musclecarkid 11-10-2007 12:37 AM

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I'll try to find Pete Dedella around Middeltown, NJ. Also will find the window sticker showing its a 427 M22 car.

PS. sc69sam has some Raceway News on his desk with this car in them. Lets see them Sammy.

COPO_Anders 11-10-2007 01:13 AM

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Kevin, let´s see if the windowsticker matches this !

Musclecarkid 11-10-2007 05:34 AM

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What is that option list printed on? It doesn't look like a buildsheet. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

COPO_Anders 11-10-2007 07:46 AM

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Kevin, that is a copy of the invoice from Holsey Chevrolet in Jersey City.

I have attached the ad I sent to the Swedish "Wheels magazine" before going to SCR9. When I came home I received just one call, but what a call. He knew where the Convincer was! The same guy had bought the race-rearend off my 1969 SS 396 Chevelle, so he knew me before.

Now I´m off on vacation !

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

4274speed 11-11-2007 06:34 PM

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Dan Rich is the other name.

4274speed 11-11-2007 06:35 PM

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Dan Rich is the other name on the door.

Musclecarkid 11-13-2007 07:08 AM

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According to my copy of the window sticker I got from Pete Dedella, this 69 COPO Chevelle was very unique. Does anyone know the earliest Vin # on a 69 COPO Chevelle?

VIN#13637 9B3799xx

13637 8 Malibu Spt Coupe $2,690.00
Destination Charge $68.50
6AO1GA Soft-Ray Tinted Glass $36.90
6J52FM Power Disc Brakes $64.25
6M22CB Special 4-Speed Trans $264.00
6753BA Black Cloth Trim .00
6924FF 71-71 Lemans Bue .00
9566AA High Performace Unit $532.95
____________________________________
Factory Installed Options $898.10
____________________________________
Total Cost $3656.60

Salvatore 11-14-2007 01:25 AM

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What a bargin! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

COPO_Anders 11-18-2007 09:48 PM

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Here is another pic of the car in Sweden. It´s from 1978 I think.
It´s a small world. The guy who was the manager of Comfort Custom in Stockholm,is a friend of a friend. He lives only 3 miles from here. We had him and his wife here for dinner last spring. He´s an old school Hot Rodder.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Don´t you guys have other pics of the Convincer II ?

COPO_Anders 11-29-2007 12:24 AM

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I found a lot of old photos today. I have been looking for some of them for a long time, but I also found some I didn´t knew I had.
Would you believe it! I was actually at Mantorp Park in 1978 and took a picture of the Convincer II ! Look at the first pic I showed of the Convincer in Sweden. I took my pic at the same time, with the HemiCuda in the other lane.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

COPO_Anders 01-04-2008 11:59 AM

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Here is a pic of the HemiCuda when it still had "Speedwin" on the doors.

COPO_Anders 01-04-2008 12:18 PM

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And here are a couple of pics that I found in an article about the in Sweden famous dragracer Jöran Persåker. They were published in Wheels magazine, January 2008, as you can see. The first one shows the car repainted and the second one taken in 1984 at Santa Pod England, shows the car after the fire. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

Until Jöran and his friends returned to Sweden, Jeff Hauser took care of the remains of the car. Jeff Hauser was then the owner of a Super Stock Challenger which for obvious reasons caught Jörans interest. That Challenger was a factory T/A Challenger which had been acid-dipped and turned into a Super Stock car by no other than Paul Rossi. Jöran bought that car in 1985.

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COPO_Anders 01-04-2008 12:39 PM

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It seems like Dan Rich was actually Dan Rzeczkxxxxx, and the story goes that his last name was too big for the door.
Dan was the driver, and at Island Dragway he took the Convincer down the track in 11.20 seconds. They used the L-88 cam in the L-72 to make enough power at the time.

Peter Dedella, the owner, was the parts-guy at Holsey Chevrolet in Jersey City.
I have also been told that Ralph Truppi was involved in some way when the car was ordered.

COPO_Anders 01-04-2008 02:01 PM

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Here are a couple of receipts from December 1977. The bought one intake, two carbs, and some other stuff like the hoodscoop from Motion, to use on the car in Sweden.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 01-04-2008 05:05 PM

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What was the deal with the fire?

COPO_Anders 01-04-2008 05:13 PM

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Marlin, they believe someone was trying to steal the car during the night and got it off the transporter. But since the thieves couldn´t start it they got pissed off and set it on fire. The guys who did it was never caught, so we really don´t know.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 01-04-2008 06:09 PM

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Wow!! That would ruin your day!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif

Verne_Frantz 01-06-2008 01:47 AM

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Truppi is still around, I believe. Just ask him.

Verne

Salvatore 01-06-2008 01:58 AM

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I believe Rob Richter and Musclecar Kid (Kevin) know Ralph. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

COPO_Anders 02-18-2008 10:56 PM

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I have been buying old Swedish magazines this last year in search of pictures of the Convincer.
Here is one from 1981 taken at Scandinavian Raceway, Anderstorp.

jannes_z-28 03-21-2008 12:18 PM

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I found one image in an old magazine too.

http://www.protouring.se/files/convi...in_finland.jpg


Jan

COPO_Anders 03-21-2008 04:28 PM

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Are you really sure it is the Convincer Janne ? I believe it was repainted from the original blue paint to the way it looks in the attached pic. I think this was done in 1979.

When was your pic taken ? The Sponsors,"Comfort Custom" on the doors and "Roffes Bilbärgning" on the rearfenders are the same though. And it looks like the lower part of the scoop is the same to.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

COPO_Anders 07-31-2008 03:58 PM

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John, I talked to Joe Spino yesterday about Brahms Chevrolet where he bought most of his engines and engineparts. I didn´t have too much to ask him about the "Convincer II", but I understood that he had built a new engine for it at one time and that the original engine was sold locally. He said that the guys who bought it "messed it up". He also said that he had replaced the internals in the rearend, so the only drivetrainpart that was original to the car was the axlehousing. When shipped to Sweden it had no engine and transmission in it.

Joe was supernice to talk to ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Mr Yenko 08-02-2008 07:38 PM

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That Comfort Custom shot is a 68 Chevelle, not even the same car? Vent windows and grill (hint)
The "MOF"

COPO_Anders 08-03-2008 08:31 PM

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Thats right ! Janne why did you think it was the Convincer ?
Here is another shot from 1981 with the sponsorname on it.

jannes_z-28 08-05-2008 12:20 PM

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Well I was just looking at the Comfort custom sponsorship. Not that good on Chevelles https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif


Jan

COPO_Anders 08-06-2008 03:08 PM

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I would like to go to New Jersey to visit Pete Dedella, Dan Rich and Joe Spino, if possible. But Pete has a secret phonenumber so I can´t get hold of him.
Kevin, could you or mabye John(4274speed) try to find out a way to get in contact with Pete ?

Thanks

Musclecarkid 08-06-2008 09:37 PM

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I'm told Pete DeDella has moved to Florida. His old phone number from NJ is no good. I don't have any other leads at this time.

COPO_Anders 11-06-2008 11:08 PM

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Here is another pic of the HemiCuda when i still had it´s American sponsorname "Speedwin" on the doors.
Pic was taken by a guy from Linköping who I bought some old magazines from yesterday.

Mr70 11-07-2008 02:20 AM

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That's a great kickass pic!

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/366...0-talet023.jpg

COPO_Anders 01-10-2009 12:37 AM

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Going through old magazines I found this pic of the Convincer II in Colorod #11 1977. It was taken during the 1979 season after the car had been repainted.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...r111979001.jpg

Chevy454 01-10-2009 12:47 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
According to my copy of the window sticker I got from Pete Dedella, this 69 COPO Chevelle was very unique. Does anyone know the earliest Vin # on a 69 COPO Chevelle?

VIN#13637 9B3799xx

13637 8 Malibu Spt Coupe $2,690.00
Destination Charge $68.50
6AO1GA Soft-Ray Tinted Glass $36.90
6J52FM Power Disc Brakes $64.25
6M22CB Special 4-Speed Trans $264.00
6753BA Black Cloth Trim .00
6924FF 71-71 Lemans Bue .00
9566AA High Performace Unit $532.95
____________________________________
Factory Installed Options $898.10
____________________________________
Total Cost $3656.60

[/ QUOTE ]
Going back through this thread, I see I missed Kevin's question...the earliest 9562 Chevelle vin# I have is naturally a Yenko car (B34xxxx) while this B379xxx vin is just prior to the earliest non-Yenko COPO Chevelle I have info on...looks like Yenko got 50+ before everyone else got privy to the COPO Chevelles.

[BTW: I've started working on the COPO/Yenko Chevelle database/registry again, so if anyone would like to donate any info, please do!]

COPO_Anders 01-10-2009 01:22 PM

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I made a typo in my last post https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif. The pic is from Colorod #11 1979. The Convincer II was still in the USA in 1977.


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