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1969 Chevelle SS 396 L78 car, Frame OFF 4 speed!
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Im not trying to be mean but in your ad you say its wearing its original ss badges but in the pics you can clearly see they are crooked and in the wrong spots. How do you know its a real 375 horse car? I would need to see some solid proof before bidding. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif
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The badges are in the factory holes on the cars original body panels. So its IMPOSSIBLE to put them in the "Wrong Spots!"
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I'm with Don - there is severe misalignment of the fender emblems. This is just not seen in factory-installed pieces since the holes were made from a template. If the restorers simply reinstalled the emblems in the existing holes in these fenders, then these fenders were replaced on the car at some point.
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The badges are in the factory holes on the cars original body panels. [/ QUOTE ] You never know, maybe the assembly line emblem hole-driller guy had a few too many at lunch that day? Keep in mind that while we restore them to Pebble Beach levels of detail today, Chevrolets have always been built as quickly and as cheaply as possible and attention to detail on the assembly line was/is not always Job One. |
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The fender emblems on our '69 are above the top of the wheel well lip. Baltimore car. The fender either went into a fixture that drilled the holes or a jig clamped to the fender and the holes were drilled manually. May have been pierced. Any way you look at it, you aren't going to get the holes an inch or two out of position no matter what the operator had for lunch: https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gifBuried in the GM manuals are dimensions for where these holes are supposed to be. When I bought our COPO Chevelle, I had the dealer install the SS emblems with the Corvette 427 number underneath. They put everything way low. Dumb on their part and dumber on my part for getting it done. Kids will be kids. These cars are 38 years old and unless you have owned it from new, there is no real way of knowing what they have gone through. In salt country, the front fenders had rust holes behind the front wheel in three years. Been there. An awful lot of these cars would have had their fenders repaired or replaced long ago. Might have been what happened with this car. The purists will want to change 4-5 things under the hood. The expensive part being the exhaust manifolds and smog system.
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I would think that the holes would be punched in a die during the manufacturing process.......
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Usually parts would be pierced. One example of drilling, was when we built the Dually trucks a few years ago. The side of the box was cut out with a plasma cutter then the box went into a station where the sides were drilled for the attaching clips. If I get the time, I can dig out a pair of original used SS396 fenders that I have and give the holes a close look. Piercing and drilling don't look the same.
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All good info. Thanks
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All good info. Thanks [/ QUOTE ] There you have it!!! Heres Tom with the weather!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif |
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GTO Don I didnt say you where correct, however any feedback is appreciated. I wouldnt quit you day job yet! All in fun!
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I think several of us are still wondering what evidence was found showing this to be an L78 car, particularly after your request for information on how to tell if it was an L78 or not.
It looks like (most) everyone is trying more than usual to be respectful, but your silence on this question is deafening....please share this revelation you had. Regards, TOM |
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With no paper car is has as much value as a malibu. Not bashing but just the facts. Sean
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We have been in contact with previous owners. I also have been told "true or not" the "L" on the cowl tag is a indicator? Maybe someone can comment on that? We are gaining more facts daily. How many are left with original body panels restored to this level? Its a nice, straight, clean and tight car! Add an original L78 factory CE block and you have a nice package! All info has been posted here. Cant be any more straight forward than that! Thanks.
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From what I've read on the Chevelle site...the "L" *may* be an indicator that it's actually a real SS. I haven't read anything about the "L" meaning that it's a 375HP car...just what I've heard (and read) that's all https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
From this site (and it appears that this applies only to Baltimore cars)? http://www.chevellestuff.com/index.htm http://www.chevellestuff.com/69velle...13637_5050.jpg 17 ~ unknown, suspect body cradle number for quality control ST 69 13637 ~ 1969 Malibu Sport Coupe (286,162 units) BAL ~ Body Assembly ~ Baltimore, Maryland 262249 BDY ~ Fisher Body data processing number (ID number on Body Broadcast Copy) TR 786 ~ Med. Green Ransom Cloth/Coated Fabric (bench) 50 50 PNT ~ Dover White (lower-upper) 02D ~ Assembly Date ~ February, 4th week B ~ unknown <u>L ~ unknown but is being researched to see if it does indicate a SS car.</u> 211 ~ unknown 281 ~ trim inspection sequence number found on trim card. 8 ~ unknown |
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OK I have tryed not say anything about this car because I have not seen it in person, but I can't understand how you keep saying how great the resto on this car is????? I can see from the picture that there is ALOT WRONG with the under side of the car let alone all the things that are wrong with other parts of the cars. Look I'm not trying to take away from the car I'm sure it's a nice car, but please stop talking about the level of this resto. And just remeber you are trying to sell a car that is VERY hard to tell what it was with out some org paper work or build sheet and we all know that (all thow some have been found) they are hard to come by.
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Rick come and take a look at it. You are local and your opinion would be valued. Any comments would be appreciated. I found this article on the website in your profile. Sounds like you are recommending to buy a car like this one? Did you write the article?
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Rick. sorry I confused you with the author of the article he works for Hemmings.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=130157255333
Here it is listed on Ebay with both freshly and professionally rebuilt engines at a BARGAIN! Thanks for the space SYC. http://images.andale.com/f2/115/105/...007/9/12/3.JPG |
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Nice car at a reasonable price!! From my experience those who slam ,question, and knock cars wouldn't buy one any way.Have a great day and God Bless!!
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any code stapming on the fenders?
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any code stapming on the fenders? [/ QUOTE ] They are factory original fenders so where would the code(S) be located. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif I can look on Monday. http://images.andale.com/f2/115/105/...07/9/12/14.JPG |
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Nice car at a reasonable price!! From my experience those who slam ,question, and knock cars wouldn't buy one any way.Have a great day and God Bless!! [/ QUOTE ] Joey I Totally agree from my personal experience also. However this forum seems to have a different class of people! Most whom have the means to purchase what they want. However you will always find one or two "Trolls" on any site! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif |
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If those are the factory fenders then why are the SS emblems so out of wack? Especially the right one. Was the factory really that lax on quality control?
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A few more photos. I cant believe this car hasn't sold yet! It is a bargain! The EXTRA L78, 375 Horse factory Engine alone is worth the price of admission!!!! Original panel car! No hit no rust body! If someone on the forum has interest I will offer a discounted "Buy it now" price. Contact me and mention SYC. Heck, just make an offer! You never know as I get a little crazy sometimes! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif All in fun Charley!
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If those are the factory fenders then why are the SS emblems so out of wack? Especially the right one. Was the factory really that lax on quality control? OK,I guess I will bite and be the troll that you think I am. First of all Its no bargain! You cant even prove its a real super sport and definetly cant prove it to be a real L78 car! No buildsheet,Is there a vin on the trans to tell if its at least a real 4 speed car? What about the rear code? Original? Fenders have definetly been replaced!! 25 yrs of looking at 69 ss cars and have never seen crooked emblems Period! When I do it makes me think its fake.Dont take it personal! Its just a car and not a great color on it either. 69 super sports are everywhere to be bought for less money. BTW, Thats not a very good frame off job. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif You can go back to your normal programs now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif Sorry!! Just being honest https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif Jason [/ QUOTE ] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif |
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No reason to be sorry Jason you learn something new every day! That is what a forum is and you are entitled to your opinion! I am happy to school you! You cant misplace SS badging when they are put in the factory holes after paint! They are not something that can be replicated as they are not oval (round) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/stupid.gif. Its all good!
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No reason to be sorry Jason you learn something new every day! That is what a forum is and you are entitled to your opinion! I am happy to school you! You cant misplace SS badging when they are put in the factory holes after paint! They are not something that can be replicated as they are not oval (round) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/stupid.gif. Its all good! [/ QUOTE ] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif |
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Why the hell do people on this site insist on pointing out every little thing that is wrong with someones car if it doesnt meet their standards? Ive posted ads on here and experienced the same bull from the "trolls" as you called them! If you dont like a car or it doesnt meet your criteria then dont buy it. Why try and make someone feel like their car is a piece of garbage just because your noses are too high up in the air. Ive owned several 69 chevelles and looked at hundreds of chevelles and other cars over the years and this one seems pretty nice to me..not concours quality but still pretty nice. Move on to a car thats flawless and pull out your big wads of cash if thats what you want to buy..stop the bashing, it just makes you look like asses. Peace!
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When a Car is perported to be something "special" then it should be.
It is a Very Nice resto. Looks clean. But facts are facts. It has Not got the "Original" Engine, it has a 70, and a Spare, Not Matching Numbers 375hp engine. Neither one is the Motor that came from the factory in this car. Strike One on the value as an L-78. Emblems, Yep. Sloppy. Could be factory, they were building Profits and Transportation. Not "Showpieces" We do That to them. We turn them into "perfect" showpieces. Price seems Fair for a SS 396, but I would rather have a low horsepower 396 that matched then a high horsepower that came out of ???? If you are going to advertise something as "Something" it's just Proper to make sure it really is something. Good Luck selling. I think the Members here are just trying to keep everyone honest. They want to make sure, and they have a significant amount of knowledge here, that what is said, is "Correct". After all, it is the members site and thier reputation that is at stake. In buying Any Car, the Buyer should and needs to be as educated as possible if he/she wants to be a Happy Buyer. |
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I think that some people do relish the thought of cutting up other people's cars. We get it with our cars quite often. Other's are just trying to warn prospective buyers of problems with a given vehicle. With all the very clever scamming going on, buyers need all the help they can get. Not many buyers have any where the knowledge that is available on this site. The con artists would love to have these helpful guys muzzled. With the economy slowing down, the prices will drop to the point where people will just start driving and enjoying their cars. We do. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif
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More than anything, it's the voice of the marketplace speaking. For both people with '69s for sale, it's probably frustrating because you're going to be upside-down soon in regards to what you both have in the cars. The market is way off, and you're stuck holding the bag. Hey, that's the risk; it happens with stocks, business opportunities, and loans to friends and family-- Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Drive 'em and enjoy them, rather than trying to substantiate each's worth, and you'll be much happier.
In regards to the SS emblems on the green one-- There's no way the car left the dealer's lot like that. And, if the car was restored, why on Earth would you not re-align the emblems? No offense, but small things like that are killers when it comes to selling, because in order to move those emblems, you risk having to paint the fender, which means a possible blending issue, etc... Just my $.00000002. I fully expect a flaming, so commence! |
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GSXRAY there is idiots on all of these auto related forums whos sole purpose is to bash cars that they don't even have the means to purchase, i see it all the time, you just have to overlook it if possible. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
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Even as i wrote my last post about asswipes putting peoples cars down, the stupid comments and retarded statements continue. King Midas or whatever your name is..you have NO clue what your talking about as far as My 69 chevelle goes. I dont need to sell it, and if i dont get what i want i will continue to drive it to cruise nights, win trophies and have fun. Like i said before if you dont like it dont buy it. Im done here!
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Even as i wrote my last post about asswipes putting peoples cars down, the stupid comments and retarded statements continue. King Midas or whatever your name is..you have NO clue what your talking about as far as My 69 chevelle goes. I dont need to sell it, and if i dont get what i want i will continue to drive it to cruise nights, win trophies and have fun. Like i said before if you dont like it dont buy it. Im done here! [/ QUOTE ] "Barn Found Yenko" GSXRAY there is idiots on all of these auto related forums whos sole purpose is to bash cars that they don't even have the means to purchase, i see it all the time, you just have to overlook it if possible." GSXRAY, please take Barn Found Yenko with you. Both of you add zero to the site, and just whine and or insult our members. See ya https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Now now kids let the man sell his car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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