Green Yenko Camaro at Carlisle GM Show
 

Did anyone see this car in the car corral?
POP indicated the car was sold new to a Canonsburg resident. Pretty early car as the cowl indicated November 1968.
Many people who know a lot more about these cars found many items that were correct. Low miles with a very solid body.

I am new to the Camaro market and I am looking for anyone's comments concerning this car.
Did you see it and what light can you shed on it?

Thank you in advance.
Rick Simpson

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Obviously NOT a copo.....

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Obviously not a COPO due to the date of production or did you see the car and find other things that indicated otherwise?

I have read several times that Yenko was in talks with Chevrolet in 1968 to have the factory install the 427. It was further stated that there may, in fact, have been some 1968 Yenko Camaros that had the 427 installed at the factory.

Has this claim ever been proven?
Are there some 68 cars that have documentation proving the engine was installed at the factory?

Any information would be appreciated.

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Yenko ordered the first batch of '69 COPO cars in late '68, so he was indeed discussing the program during '68.

To date there are no documented examples of a COPO installed 427 in a '68.

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Too early yes but if the mentioned POP is genuine, what engine suffix and rear was noted?.

As a mater of interest, what was the build on Yenko's '69 Olympic gold 'prototype'...and what engine was it originally before transplant?.

Rick, you're not far from me...I think I met you at Tim Banning's once?.
Was it you that had and do you still have a factory Hemi four door car?.

~ Pete
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Obviously not a COPO due to the date of production or did you see the car and find other things that indicated otherwise?

I have read several times that Yenko was in talks with Chevrolet in 1968 to have the factory install the 427. It was further stated that there may, in fact, have been some 1968 Yenko Camaros that had the 427 installed at the factory.

Has this claim ever been proven?
Are there some 68 cars that have documentation proving the engine was installed at the factory?

Any information would be appreciated.

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The trim tag told me all I needed to know. It was a Nov of 68 with X codes and D80. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

The first known 427 camaro copos are the ZL1's. The first of which shipped last week of Dec of 68. Marlin I believe was referring to iron headed 427 copos which didn't ship until 69.

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[The trim tag told me all I needed to know. It was a Nov of 68 with X codes and D80. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif



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Didn't know this part...you must've seen the car first hand?.

What Paceme is indicating is since X-Codes began around the second week of Dec and D80 later yet, a Nov. '68 tag w/ these has been altered or is a repop..
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~ Pete

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As a mater of interest, what was the build on Yenko's '69 Olympic gold 'prototype'...and what engine was it originally before transplant?

[/ QUOTE ] The gold car was a regular COPO 9561/9737 with factory installed iron block L72 same as all the rest of Yenko's Camaros in '69...it was just one of the first 50 he ordered which were built on an X66 platform rather than an X44 at the factory. This included the black tail light panel and rockers sills, as well as the chrome rear quarter "gills" like a big block SS would have been built. The gold car is referred to as the "prototype" as it was one of the first received by Yenko and subsequently striped/emblemed...and it was done in an odd configuration with the Yenko crests above the Camaro scripts on the fenders rather than below...and it also had the 427s ahead of the marker light rather than on the cowl hood sides. Yenko seemed to adopt a more consistent style with future cars. The gold car was also featured in the July '69 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated road test, which has etched the car into a lot of minds permanently.

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Yep, I was referring to the iron version only!

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So was the gold "prototype" considered to be the #1 Yenko?
Joe

(sorry Marlin I had to) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Yes Pete I owned the Tan 1966 Hemi Coronet four door sedan.
The car was very rusty and I decided to sell it and a couple of other Mopars when Chrysler introduced the Viper GTS coupe in 1996.
The car is owned by a fellow in Los Vegas now. He also owns the red 66 Coronet four door.

From what I could tell in the short time I looked for information on the green car at Carlisle the VIN feel a few days short of the the end of November recorded VINs. This concurred with the trim tag's 11D date code. The trim tag did contain X22 but I did not remember the D30 code being there.
The POP engine code I believe was JH (396/375) and I am pretty sure the rear end code on the POP was CE, which matched the rear housing. According to the POP the car was sold April 4 1969 to a resident of Canonsburg, Pa from the Yenko dealership.
I will be asking the owner for more information in the next couple of days.

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So was the gold "prototype" considered to be the #1 Yenko?
Joe

(sorry Marlin I had to) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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In a way I guess it was likely the first 69 to be "converted" or at least it's remembered that way because of the odd emblem configuration and press it got. That's not to say that the other 49 X66 9561s Don had at his disposal at the moment were any less "protoype" than that one, seeing as how they were all the first of their kind at that point...and pretty much identical, short of where he pinned his badges on that particular gold one.

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Yes Pete I owned the Tan 1966 Hemi Coronet four door sedan.
The car was very rusty and I decided to sell it and a couple of other Mopars when Chrysler introduced the Viper GTS coupe in 1996.
The car is owned by a fellow in Los Vegas now. He also owns the red 66 Coronet four door.

From what I could tell in the short time I looked for information on the green car at Carlisle the VIN feel a few days short of the the end of November recorded VINs. This concurred with the trim tag's 11D date code. The trim tag did contain X22 but I did not remember the D30 code being there.
The POP engine code I believe was JH (396/375) and I am pretty sure the rear end code on the POP was CE, which matched the rear housing. According to the POP the car was sold April 4 1969 to a resident of Canonsburg, Pa from the Yenko dealership.
I will be asking the owner for more information in the next couple of days.

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What Steve is saying is that it's a fake trim tag. There were no X coded trim tags in Nov of 68 and the D80 did not show up until later as well. So if you still look at the car, get lots of quality pictures to try and verify things and don't do anything quickly without some help. It doesn't sound like a real Yenko.

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I think "D80" began showing up starting on 05D cars.

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OK I checked my notes on the car.
There was no 'D80' code on the cowl tag.

The rear end code was 'BE' not CE as previously stated.

The X22 code was there and the date on the cowl tag was 11D.

What was the date that the X codes started being used?

Aside from the 11D date what else on the cowl tag would indicate the date of body production? Is there a sequence to the numbers assigned to body production?

Thamks in advance.

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Rick, not trying to be a smarty pants but you should save this link for CRG, it will help answer questions for you and is a great ref for other first gen cars you may look at.

B.

http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml

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Hi Bud
Thank you for the link.
Very informative. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

I have only made it through a couple of pages so far but great information.

Thanks again.

I owe you several Canadians.

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OK I checked my notes on the car.
There was no 'D80' code on the cowl tag.

The rear end code was 'BE' not CE as previously stated.

The X22 code was there and the date on the cowl tag was 11D.

What was the date that the X codes started being used?

Aside from the 11D date what else on the cowl tag would indicate the date of body production? Is there a sequence to the numbers assigned to body production?

Thamks in advance.

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I looked at many cars at Carlisle, so possibly I was mistaken regarding D80(wish I would have taken a pic of the tag). Based on what you have learned do you believe it is a Yenko, and are you pursuing the car? X code date =12B
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Also if you have the VIN and body # please share that so it can be documented as not being a yenko.

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Are there any known X22 COPOs?

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I have heard of one existing, but i have no first hand information or documentation. Typically found copo x codes are, x66,x44 and x11.

Re: Green Yenko Camaro at Carlisle GM Show
 

In 35 years of playing with Muscle Cars I have learned that there seldom is a black and white answer to a question or a issue concerning mass produced cars. There always seems to be varying shades of grey and I learned a long long time ago to never say never and never be quick to judge.

This car certainly warrants further investigation. In discussing the car with several people at the show there were some people that felt it could be real.
I personally do not know enough yet to form an opinion.

I do appreciate the comments and information from the board members both posted and in PMs.


Thanks again.