Micheal Moore
 

What a moron!!!! "poster child for vasectomies"

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Speaking of surgical procedures.................... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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He's taking a swing at my industry this time. A few years ago we were told to watch out because Mr. Moore was offering 50k to set up a camera in a doctors office to film the Pharma reps in action. How is 50 thousand dollars not considered a bribe??? I could only offer a steak at Peter Luggers in hopes of getting more than 30 seconds to discuss my product.

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God...that was so funny that I laughed my "ASS" off! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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HE LOOKS LIKE A REAL DORK WITH THAT BASEBALL CAP ON AND NEEDS TO DROP ABOUT 200 LBS!!

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HE LOOKS LIKE A REAL DORK WITH THAT BASEBALL CAP ON AND NEEDS TO DROP ABOUT 200 LBS!!

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Careful, you might have just insulted some of us who wear baseball hats and need to lose weight...

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That's it pick on the sick. Sickos https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Bill you aready have proved your not dumb. Can't say that for Moore!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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That's it pick on the sick. Sickos https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Who...me? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Hope you are feeling better Kim! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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WAA https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Thanks Bruce https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif BACK TO THE SOFA

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BACK TO THE SOFA

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So how is today different than .......any other day? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif



(Like you expected sympathy........... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif)

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somebody has to do what he does.

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Thanks Kim! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

I'll say this about health care in this country: the moment it became a for-profit industry we humans became too expensive to care for. The current HMO system is set up to deny care in every possible instance, much the same as in any insurance company: limit the payout any way possible. Cost control is KING in business and the only way to control cost in the HMO industry is to place a limit on the number of people who actually receive care.

Ask yourself what you would want if you or your children got sick, like cancer sick. Would you want the best care available or would you allow yourself to be ignored and stonewalled by insurance companies? If you're lucky you and your family will be covered and actually get the best care available. Most of us will have to sell our homes, our cars, cash-in our savings and hope to God that we survive our illness and then work our way back to health, both physically and financially.

In fairness to the HMO industry I will put on my HMO CEO hat: How do I preserve profits and reward myself and my shareholders with the highest possible rate of return? I'll have to limit the payout and the best way to do that is to limit the number of people who actually receive care. If I can keep that number as low as possible while the premiums/pay-in remain at high levels then we make money. That is the CEO's job: make money. (Making large sums of money can be an unsightly and dark process, as we see here.)

The current system allows people to die on a cost-benefit analysis basis. If the HMO thinks you're going to die anyway then they deny coverage outright or stonewall you until you die.

Michael Moore or no Michael Moore, the US health care system is set up for profit FIRST and the actual providing of care is a distant second. It is a HUGE problem and there probably won't be an answer to how we deal with it in our lifetimes, Hillary Clinton or no Hillary Clinton.

Old people always tell you, "If you have your helath that's all you need." It has never been more true.

Oh, and as repulsive as Moore is to some people, he does make you think, and that's what HMO's definitely don't want you to do! Don't ask questions either. If the HMO puts you on hold for hours, week after week, month after month, and you finally give up and never call back then they have succeeded in controlling cost by preventing a payout. Mission accomplished.

(I have not seen Moore's movie.)

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Bill........I think the Lawyers of the World feel that the Insurance Companies and Doctors are their own personal "Piggy Banks" to be at War with......Bottom Line.....Who pays the additional "Burden".....By the way, How did John Edwards make all his Money........and he's concerned about the "Poor".....Yeah, Right.....
It's a War with the "Undocumented American's" as Harry Reid call's them, now coming into the mix......Guess who pay's..............??????

Ken
(Guilty as Charged)

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some of the largest personal injury law firms in this country are the biggest contibutors to the republican party.

look it up,it is a fact.

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some of the largest personal injury law firms in this country are the biggest contibutors to the republican party.

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I'm sure it go's both way's ......So what's your point .....I said nothing about Political Party's.....just stating "Reality"..........

Ken

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I hear you Ken and we agree more than we disagree on the details. All I said was that it is a HUGE problem and there probably won't be an answer to how we deal with it in our lifetimes.

We are already paying, by the way. Poor people and the uninsured are already flooding the health care system. Go to any emergency room almost any time of day to see the poor, the unemployed, illegals, you name it, they are already in there 50 or more deep. We really don't have a homeless problem in my local area nor are there a lot of poor people--until you go to the emergency room. These people don't care about Michael Moore or insurance or what it costs, they have bypassed all that and gone to the hospital. It's the rest of us who pay our HMO premiums (and taxes!) and then get dicked-around by our HMOs. Somebody tell me who's the smart one here?

By the way, anybody see the story about the Mexican lady who died on the floor of an ER waiting room in Los Angeles a few days ago? Witnesses even called 911 from the waiting room as she vomited blood and died and no one from the hospital staff (as far as we know at this point) did anything to help her. The 911 operator put the blame on the caller! There's probably more to this story but it doesn't look good so far.

As for lawyers, they are into everything. Everything lucrative, that is. (I know, lawyers gotta' eat too.)

As for John Edwards, I am not impressed with anyone running for president in 2008. I'm still not ruling-out a late entry by Jeb Bush, say, by next spring, jumping in as the man on horse-back come here to save us. Iraq's a mess though so he may cough twice and pass this time.

We do live in interesting times.

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We do live in interesting times


Bring back "Boston Blackie"


Ken

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My wife cannot get _any_ medical insurance in the U.S. because she _had_ Hep C and even though she was cured we just can't qualify. We use our AAA card to get discounts on prescription drugs. Neither of us has employer insurance. I'm holding on to my Canadian citizenship so's we can scoot back soon as something serious comes down.

This to say you dudes should maybe put aside your pre-conceived opinions of Michael Moore and listen to what he has to say about this health care situation.

I'll bet there are other folks on this website with similar stories. I've lived in Canada, England, and U.S.-- our 3 kids were born in all 3 countries -- so, I have a somewhat 'informed' opinion on the matter.

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Amen, bro.

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Quote: Careful, you may have just insulted some of us who wear baseball caps and need to loose weight.

No Sir, I do not mean to insult anyone here on the site!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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Amen, bro.

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Michael Moore is an opportunist that has learned how to work the system thru "Hype" and "Hysteria" and has "Blended" himself well into "Hollywood, I can walk on water" crowd very well......I'm sure Michael Moore's Educational background qualify's him as an Expert in reference to the (I use the term Loosely) Movie's he get's involved in.........I am very amused (in general) by the people that get caught up in Hanging on to every word that comes out of a "So called" Hollywood Celebrity's mouth.....my God ...these are "Actors"....that probably couldn't hold a job at McDonalds...........Better stop now before I get into trouble......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Just my $.02

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif

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my God ...these are "Actors"....that probably couldn't hold a job at McDonalds...........Better stop now before I get into trouble......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Just my $.02

So that's how Reagan got elected president. He couldn't get on at Mickie Dees. Has ole Fred Thompsen been rejected too? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif Why shoot, I'd even eat there if they'd hire ole fat Rush, and get him off the air waves. "Little ceegar ash with those fries lady"?
It's all good Whizzer. You and me don't agree on much either, but I bet we could get together and work out something for the good of everybody faster than those boys in the belt way. Respect for each others opinions and concerns, and a willingness to work together for the common good. Not Haliburton, not bp oil, not drug companies, not organized labor. The good decent folks of this great country.
As for our good friend Mr. Howie. I hope your doing well. I don't think I've ever known any Democrats to have had your affliction. Must just be something that" boils" up with that GOP anger. My gosh! If Dubya gets that immigration through, there could be butts exploding all over America. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif "Good night, and good luck". https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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my God ...these are "Actors"....that probably couldn't hold a job at McDonalds...........Better stop now before I get into trouble......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Just my $.02

So that's how Reagan got elected president. He couldn't get on at Mickie Dees. Has ole Fred Thompsen been rejected too? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif Why shoot, I'd even eat there if they'd hire ole fat Rush, and get him off the air waves. "Little ceegar ash with those fries lady"?
It's all good Whizzer. You and me don't agree on much either, but I bet we could get together and work out something for the good of everybody faster than those boys in the belt way. Respect for each others opinions and concerns, and a willingness to work together for the common good. Not Haliburton, not bp oil, not drug companies, not organized labor. The good decent folks of this great country.
As for our good friend Mr. Howie. I hope your doing well. I don't think I've ever known any Democrats to have had your affliction. Must just be something that" boils" up with that GOP anger. My gosh! If Dubya gets that immigration through, there could be butts exploding all over America. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif "Good night, and good luck". https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Maybe it's time to flush the "Big Porcelein" bowl in Washington and get rid of them "ALL".....get normal people in there and these complicated "Issues" could be resolved in a day or two......Can you say "Logic and Common Sense"........which is no longer understood since "Lawyers" and "Money" took over.........You're Right Schoyne.....we could "Fix it"............

Ken

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Maybe it's time to flush the "Big Porcelein" bowl in Washington and get rid of them "ALL".....get normal people in there and these complicated "Issues" could be resolved in a day or two......

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Our Constitution states that we have the right overthrow any government we aren't happy with, and establish a new one. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Try it! But be prepared to wake up in Bolivia wondering what the H#ll happened............... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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Yes, but be prepared to be the next Ruby Ridge or Waco example. This govt. like all govt. throughout history is gaining power and corruption to the point that the former "America" no longer exist. And like people getting old and losing their health; it's inevitable. Our children and their children will despise us for letting all this happen on our watch!
Our Constitution states that we have the right overthrow any government we aren't happy with, and establish a new one. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Try it! But be prepared to wake up in Bolivia wondering what the H#ll happened............... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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Those last two sentences in the above post are not mine? WTH???

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I like Michael Less.

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Oh boy https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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HERE is the real problem with health care today!!! YOU, ME & THEM ,in other words ALL of us period. I started in the Insurance bus. 35 years ago,we didn't sell health care Insurance. We sold major Medical Hospital plans. They covered hospital stay no Dr bills. First thing people complained it didn't cover the dr. bills, so the dr. put you in the hospital, now it's covered. The expense went up FAST. Now the insurance companies came up with out patient care, we complained about it next. Their complaint was were sent home Tooo early. The costs today are direct results from wanting everything covered. We are all to blame for this, drs. lawyers, patients & the public. Bill you can't blame the Insurance Companies by trying to drop the cost. Again THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED!!!! Denis you stated your wife can't get health insurance because of health problems. Every state in the USA offers COMP HEALTH PLANS. It's the law.Again we wanted this. Check with your Insurance Agent. We live in the greatest Country in the WORLD and we still complain!!! We have the best health care in WORLD bar none. The system is not broken. If you think federal health care is the answer ask the boys up north how will that's working out for them. If you have a heart att. there you have 37% chance of making it!! WOW We are a country of SPOILED BRATTS with 69% of us are dissatisfied. MICHEAL MOORE IS STILL A IDIOT. Sorry for my rant. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Back in the early spring of 2002 I started having chest pains when exerting myself. I've been known to do that once in a while. With the speed of our system an attempted angioplasty wasn't performed until late in the fall. By then the artery was completely blocked. Fortunately for me, the heart had created a bypass artery on its own. Didn't know that happened before. I might be pushing up daisies by now if it hadn't. Lineups for treatments are so long that people are being shipped south of the border to Buffalo and other places to get emergency surgery done.....at the extra cost to our health care system. Here in Peterborough, they are tearing down a perfectly good hospital that was built in 1950 so that they can build a new one. Like anything government run, they can't seem to spend enough money. Perhaps they should tear down every house in town that was built before 1950. That might get a few people's attention. Shouldn't complain too much though. We don't lose everything if we get sick. Something to be said for that. Of courser we are one of the highest taxed population in the world. Wonder why?

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Sometimes when you use a "quote" it separates above, and below what you wrote.

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Kim
I have to disagree My wife had been laid off two months ago
Me I am on disability and have Medicare My wife has been looking for a job BUT when you hit 55 + no one WILL hire you Any way I have been trying to get Medical Insurance for my wife and this is what am told Since she is a diabetic no insurance company will give her health insurance . I do not know what law you are talking about because after two month s of trying she can not get health insurance. So I know Denis is right here. The insurance companies are all out for them self’s I hate them with a passion
Think what you want but the insurance companies WILL NOT gave you heath insurance
If you have an health issue I know I have tried
Don’t think Michael Moore is far from the truth Most Heath insurance companies are bad new’s

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Norm, Call your state Insurance dept.they can tell about it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Norm, PA Ins Dept. # is 1-877-881-6388 or www.insurance.stat.pa.us I think this is the # For the state ins plan 1-800-GO-BASIC Try these. Kim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Insurance companies are legalized bookmakers. You bet that something bad will happen, they examine the risk involved (think of it as making the point spread), and bet that it won't happen. Low risk, lower premium. High risk, high or no premium. Like Norm, I too am on disability, but thank God that my wife works for the state. Without her, I would not be on this board, much less the internet.
Michael Moore is not a liar, but is very good at giving up selective information for you to see his point of view. He states facts that prove his point of view, but with no objectivity. Like it or not, the truth is an ugly beast, but it can be twisted like a pair of knickers. There is always the Bell Curve in effect, between outright lies at one end and pure truth at the other. Seek first to understand, so that you can be understood. Better to take a stance based on facts, than an opinion based on emotions. JMHO

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Andy, I don't ever remember being called a leglized bookmaker when I deliver a life insurance check to new widow. In fact I'm the only one that gives her anything except flowers & condolences.

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My brother waited two months for his wife's life insurance check. I wonder what they used that money for?