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kwhizz 05-01-2007 08:51 PM

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Sheesh!!!...................Why do we have any Laws at All????................This is Nonsense......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Dave Rifkin 05-01-2007 09:31 PM

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Takes alot of balls doesn't it? You're here illegally and have the nerve to protest about something? The government should round all of them up during these protests and ship their asses back to where they came from. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

WILMASBOYL78 05-01-2007 10:42 PM

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Don't send them back yet...wait until the guys are done with my yard work.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif


wilma

WILMASBOYL78 05-01-2007 10:58 PM

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Here's a link to an article about "the huddled masses longing to be free"


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18411370/

jrn101 05-02-2007 03:04 AM

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i think next time they have this stupid rally it should be a decade with out illegals instead of a day with out em.

69LM1 05-02-2007 03:12 AM

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This photo says a lot!

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/getty/74....rp350x350.jpg

Anyone ever hear of aztlan? Check out the sign in that guys hand. Google aztlan or visit http://www.illegalaliens.us/aztlan.htm for more info...


<<<<<<<<snip>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>
AZTLAN

"Native-born American Hispanics feel like strangers in their own land."

Charles Truxillo, Professor, University of New Mexico

Under the euphuism 'Hispanic Homeland' and 'Nation of Aztlan,' activists from numerous organizations including Mexican American Legal Defense and La Raza (The Race) activists are attempting to annex large portions of SW United States to Mexico. "Republica del Norte," the Republic of the North, which would include the present U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, plus southern Colorado, along with several current Mexican states, is "an inevitability" says Charles Truxillo, professor, University of New Mexico. He further states the new "Hispanic Homeland" should be brought into being "by any means necessary."

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427TJ 05-02-2007 03:24 AM

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activists are attempting to annex large portions of SW United States to Mexico. "Republica del Norte," the Republic of the North, which would include the present U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, plus southern Colorado, along with several current Mexican states, is "an inevitability" says Charles Truxillo, professor, University of New Mexico. He further states the new "Hispanic Homeland" should be brought into being "by any means necessary."

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Hey, as long as they mow lawns, do dishes, bus tables, pick fruits and vegetables, work on construction sites, clean homes and nanny kids for the well-to-do, clean hotel rooms, or whatever else for three bucks an hour, no union, no benefits, I'd bet we go along with that.

THEY COME HERE BECAUSE WE HIRE THEM. DON'T HIRE THEM AND THEY MIGHT STOP COMING HERE. HIRE THE EXPENSIVE WHITE GUY WITH THE $40,000 CREW CAB THAT ALSO HAS $3,000 WORTH OF WHEELS AND TIRES THAT HE TOWS HIS $30,000 BASS BOAT AND FOUR DIRT BIKES WITH.

STOP BEING SEDUCED BY CHEAP LABOR AND THE PROBLEM MIGHT JUST GO AWAY.

(Capitals are for emphasis, not yelling.)

BBIGG BLOCK 396 05-02-2007 07:49 AM

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I agree with 427tj! If they don't work they don't eat! they will go home! The next time there is a BIG RALLY OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! There should be a TEXAS ROUNDUP! Gather them all up and ship them all back! It is pretty easy to plan! They get the permit for the rally! Then we know ehn nd what time it is going to happen,so all we have to do is have a convention meeting of BORDER AGENTS! And have one large training session! And by the way being ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! What rights do they actually have to have a RALLY,DEMONSTRATION ETC! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

427king 05-02-2007 08:07 AM

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Youd be better off making 9.00 an hour,not need to have any insurance or healthcare,or pay any income taxes ,than make 25.00 an hour and have to pay all of the above . A friend of mine hired an illegal to do roofing.The guy fell off the roof and sued him for 20K. Not only did my friend have to pay the 20K to an illegal alien, he couldnt deduct it from his taxes[which is normally allowed] because he hired an illegal worker. [ QUOTE ]
STOP BEING SEDUCED BY CHEAP LABOR AND THE PROBLEM MIGHT JUST GO AWAY.



[/ QUOTE ] The problem is the people WE hire are the ones hiring illegals. I couldnt have a simple conversation with 2 of the delivery people that brought a tv to me from one of the major chain stores. What do they do at the job interview to get hired???smile and nod????

JChlupsa 05-02-2007 08:39 AM

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Is it a problem Yes what to do, theres no 100% certain answer, Native American Indians are still looking for that answer

ORIGLS6 05-02-2007 05:25 PM

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Well put Jeff. I admit I have little sympathy for illegal aliens -- we're becoming infiltrated rapidly in our area -- .........but the treatment of the Native Americans is a whole different issue. They are TRUE Americans by most definitions, and look at what they've endured. Say what you want, but my feelings are very strong on this topic.

GRB 05-02-2007 06:05 PM

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Coming to America to assimilate and become a part of our culture is one thing. Coming here to take land, hand-outs and to colonize is quite another.

69LM1 05-02-2007 08:01 PM

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And that's the point. Apparently some (how many,?) of these mexicans (and again, when we say mexicans, do we mean, gutalmalins(sp) hondorins, cubans etc etc) are looking to colonize into the california et al territories and annex them as a mexican state, "Aztlan". Scary thought, and one that is a constitutional threat!

This is what the national guard is for! Not Iraq. We need to have the guard augment the border patrol and stop this mess NOW!

In an article, they quoted a protestor as saying that they want to pay taxes, "Pay Tax today, Vote Tomorrow"!

427TJ 05-02-2007 08:13 PM

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What do they do at the job interview to get hired???smile and nod????

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Yes, and they agree to work for $3.00 an hour, no questions asked. The smile and nod is their acknowledgment of our unquenchable hunger for cheap labor.

It's all about cheap.

427TJ 05-02-2007 08:22 PM

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Coming here to take land, hand-outs and to colonize is quite another.

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They don't take any land, we sell it to them . (I think we took the land from Mexico, if memory serves.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War

427TJ 05-02-2007 08:29 PM

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I've used this analogy here before but I think it clearly explains the problem of illegal labor:

Say you want a hole dug in your backyard for a new swimming pool. You call a local (American) building contractor. He arrives in his new $40,000 crew-cab pickup (yeah, it's got a Hemi) with $3,000 worth of chrome wheels and mud tires. The truck has a trailer hitch for towing his $30,000 bass fishing boat. He usually puts his four dirt bikes in the bed when he goes on vacation and tows the four ATVs on a trailer. If duck season opens when he's half-way through digging the hole for your pool he will leave the job and go duck hunting for a week. (There is a clause in the contract that you missed that says he shall be allowed to leave the job site for opening day of duck, deer, salmon, pheasant, etc., etc. season.) His fee for digging the pool is $3,000, not including a disposal fee for the mound of dirt.

Juan Martinez, an illegal alien from Mexico, will arrive in his 1975 Datsun short-bed pickup with his wife at his side and his four kids will be sitting in the bed. He brought six shovels, one for himself, one for Juanita, his wife, and four more for his children, ranging in age from 15 down to 6. They will all dig. His fee for digging your pool is $500 cash and they will not stop digging until the job is finished. You'll pay him cash, he will say "Gracias, muchas gracias!" and leave. If he hurts himself while digging, his family will double their efforts and finish the job--no OSHA claim to sweat over.

So who will you hire?

By the way, the American contractor will have hired Juan and his family to dig the hole and pocket $2,700 bucks. He will have paid Juan only $300 to do the job after threatening to report Juan to the INS.

Illegal labor is like crack cocaine. We know we shouldn't use it but it's JUST SO DAMN CHEAP!

427king 05-02-2007 08:47 PM

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Who are you going to hire?

[/ QUOTE ] Its a double edge sword, either you hire Juan Martinez, or you pay the guy with the crew cab, and HE contracts Juan Martinez for you as the general contractor. Either way Juans going to get the job.

Fast67VelleN2O 05-02-2007 09:00 PM

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I used to work in South west Wilmington De and these people DO NOT CARE about the UNited States. They wave their own flag, speak their own language, and get frustrated with you when YOU don't speak spanish. They send their hard earned cash back home to their family members in Mexico or wherever they are from. Most don't pay taxes. The towing yard i work at, most of our tows are from illegals with no identification, no insurance, and out of state tags.

To give them the benefit of the doubt, they work hard, they want to stay because the pay (to them) is so great, and i'll trade every last lazy welfare american for every hard working illegal that wants a life here in America.

427TJ 05-02-2007 09:05 PM

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Either way Juans going to get the job.

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"We have seen the enemy and he is us!" -Walt Kelly

427king 05-02-2007 09:28 PM

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MOST pay taxes??? How does an illegal alien file and pay taxes with the IRS? I think its safe to say NO illegal pays income taxes. If they want to become citizens a tour in Iraq as an american should proceed any other paperwork.

69LM1 05-03-2007 12:46 AM

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The leaders want them to start paying taxes. THEN they will DEMAND the right to vote, as "taxpayers".

The demicans can't wait to get their hands on (x)million new voters! And the reblicrats love the near slave labor.............

Kim_Howie 05-03-2007 01:24 AM

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Chuck, They are paying taxes and IRS doesn't care if they are not citizens. SCREW IT, SEND THEM ALL HOME. I'll pay more for veggies and pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

TimG 05-03-2007 02:00 AM

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I work on the Texas-Mexico boarder two days per month. It IS Mexico down there with the primary language being Spanish, or garbage Spanish. The area is swamped with attorneys that sue business to death on behalf of injured or perceived injured people, it's like the lottery for folks who have nothing. The judges, juries and lawyers are all from Mexico or of Mexican descent and the payouts are generous to stay out of court or catastrophic if it does end up in court. Hidalgo County is the worst, if you get sued there, it's not if you pay, it's how much you pay. Medical Malpractice suits are rampant, it's to the point that many doctors will not practice in South Texas because of the lawsuit abuse.

kwhizz 05-03-2007 02:01 AM

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Chuck, They are paying taxes and IRS doesn't care if they are not citizens. SCREW IT, SEND THEM ALL HOME. I'll pay more for veggies and pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Kim..........You are my "NEW" Idol......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif


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kwhizz 05-03-2007 02:12 AM

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I work on the Texas-Mexico boarder two days per month. It IS Mexico down there with the primary language being Spanish, or garbage Spanish. The area is swamped with attorneys that sue business to death on behalf of injured or perceived injured people, it's like the lottery for folks who have nothing. The judges, juries and lawyers are all from Mexico or of Mexican descent and the payouts are generous to stay out of court or catastrophic if it does end up in court. Hidalgo County is the worst, if you get sued there, it's not if you pay, it's how much you pay. Medical Malpractice suits are rampant, it's to the point that many doctors will not practice in South Texas because of the lawsuit abuse.

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Listen to the "SUCKING" sound.........That's Lawyers taking Money out of the System and guess who is making up the Difference...............I have a situation going on right now with an Employee and a fake Workman's Comp claim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif.........One of the Bottom Feeding Lawyers got his Hooks into this guy and it's like a Game to these guy's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif.....Sue everyone and sooner or later you'll get a "Settlement" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif......Why?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif......Because the "Lawyer" fees get to where it's almost cheaper to pay the guy off rather that to seek "Justice" and find out what's really going on https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif....99% make the other 1% look bad........Just my $.02

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1967 Impala 05-03-2007 03:43 AM

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A woman wrote the best 'Letter to the Editor' in ages!! She cuts to the quick and explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.
Her letter said:

Recently, large demonstrations have taken place across the Country protesting the fact that parliament is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that Canada might actually want to protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, make it harder (as an illegal immigrant) to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house. Then, when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, 'I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and done the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest

(except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work) because he too is hard-working and honest,

except for that breaking-in part.

If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends Who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my illegal right to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, except for well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice, racist, and being an anti-housebreaker.

Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me! English/French is too hard for me to learn. You should also allow me to vote - in my own language, since I live in your house!

Why can't people see how ridiculous this is? Only in Canada

If you agree, pass it on (in English or French). Share it if you see the value of it as a good simile.

If not, blow it off, along with your future https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

Mr70 05-03-2007 04:13 AM

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My now deceased Grandparents moved down to Brownsville Tx. in 1985.
We would occasionally visit them every few years.
While we were down there,a car rearended us on our way back from Reynosa Mx. at 1 mph just before the border crossing.We were the victims and didn't even feel a thing.We ignored it.
The hispanic driver behind us who hit us,jumped out of his car and rolled around moaning and holding his neck.
My Grandpa,who was driving,laughed while watching all this unfold in his mirror,yelling.."Senoir,we haven't officially made it into America yet".
We then kept on moving up in line to the border check,and the other driver jumped back into his vehicle behind us as if all was fine until we all did actually cross the border.
That's where the driver behind us repeated his act all over again and my Grandpa just laughed and said,.."it feels good to be home". https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

ORIGLS6 05-03-2007 06:51 PM

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"The more I think about it,
Old Willy was right.
Let's kill all the lawyers,
Kill 'em tonite"

'Get Over It'.....Eagles

Kim_Howie 05-03-2007 07:59 PM

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Where in the h$ll was are border patrol people during these PARADES https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gifNOW https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

71-LS6 05-03-2007 11:35 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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Coming here to take land, hand-outs and to colonize is quite another.

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They don't take any land, we sell it to them . (I think we took the land from Mexico, if memory serves.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War

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Some facts yes, but mostly out of context.
After mexican independence (from spain) in 1821, Mexico became a representative republic till approx. 1834. During this time mexican military leaders frequently revolted. One of these generals was Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. This character was elected in 1833 but decided that becoming a dictator was a better deal for him. Americans and mexicans in what is essentially present day texas, revolted against this dictator. They whipped his ass and Texas became an independent country in 1836. Texas joined the United States in 1845, Mexico disputed Texas' autonomy and attacked the Texas border again in 1846. This led to the mexican-american war, which again, resulted in a total defeat for the Mexican DICTATOR Santa Anna in 1848. At this time the treaty of guadalupe hildago was signed, and CA. AZ. NV. NM. and parts of adjoining states were ceded to the U.S. for the sum of 15 million dollars (that's a couple of dragon snakes worth of $$ for you car-only folks). To sum it up, Mexico started not one, but two wars, lost them both, and got paid for their trouble after the second one. Their government has been since then, and will always be, a corrupt cesspool.
The notion that we have taken, or are taking anything but crap from Mexico, is completely false. BTW they have been violating our border sovereignty (at least in Texas) for nearly 40 years now, the only difference today, is they are achieving critical mass with the help of an idiot that I voted for.
And yes, I am a former Texan.

(World Book 2001) and some old history class notes

x Baldwin Motion 05-04-2007 02:24 AM

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We have learned nothing from the American Indians (or Native Americans, {trying to be PC just this once)

Just ask one if they regret;
1) FAILURE TO SECURE BORDERS
2) FAILURE TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

I read somewhere recently that democracies throughout world history usually only last about 200 years. We better wake up !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

427king 05-18-2007 08:11 AM

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18721945/ Break the law, dont pay taxes, become a US citizen. Great concept. I wonder if US citizens can go to other countries illegally, pay no taxes, and then get a passport.

ANDY M 05-18-2007 06:01 PM

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Muslims from Algeria have been doing that in France for years. They even have squatting rights in abandoned apartment buildings, conviently located outside of the city.
Only problem is that nobody will hire them to work illegaly.
Too much socialism to make it worth the paperwork for the employer, and the tax collectors in France could teach the IRS a thing or two.
BTW, they riot too for citizenship. France used to own Algeria until they got booted out by a popular uprising.

Z-11 396 05-18-2007 07:17 PM

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18721945/ Break the law, dont pay taxes, become a US citizen. Great concept. I wonder if US citizens can go to other countries illegally, pay no taxes, and then get a passport.

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427king 05-19-2007 08:04 AM

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18742469/ Is it any others countries concern what laws we pass in the US ? Maybe they feel its thier country??

BUIZILLA 05-19-2007 03:27 PM

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Where in the h$ll was are border patrol people during these PARADES https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gifNOW https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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now THERE'S a good question... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

427king 05-30-2007 01:16 AM

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It was reported today that the secret service is going to take 2500 current immigration officers and airport screeners and have them be security detail for the upcoming presidential candidates. Some things just dont make sense.


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