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bulletpruf 04-15-2007 08:11 PM

Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
So I have several cars from several different manufacturers. No real brand loyalty here; I just buy what's available and what I like. However, I've toyed with the idea of buying, building, and/or cloning my way to the ultimate collection of "musclecars." Figured I needed one from each manufacturer (only one Mopar and Ford/Merc b/c they use the same engines), and only intermediates (no ponycars). Here's what I came up with -

1. Pontiac: '69 or '70 RAIV GTO
2. Buick: '70 GS Stage 1
3. Olds: '70 442 W30
4. Mopar: '67-'70 B Body with a hemi
5. Ford: '67 Fairlane with 427 or '64 Thunderbolt
6. Chevy: '70 LS6 Chevelle

If I sold most of my cars I might be able to pull it off. Any thoughts? What did I leave out?

Scott

budnate 04-15-2007 09:42 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif1966 427 Cobra https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

bulletpruf 04-15-2007 10:53 PM

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif1966 427 Cobra https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Well, it may be the ultimate car, but not sure if I would call it a musclecar. I certainly can't afford a real one, and I think the clones (aluminum body cars) are also over six figures.

Scott

Dave Rifkin 04-15-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
I guess if you were to add an AMC, per your "no ponycar" rule, you'd have to add a Rebel Machine.

69hurstSC 04-16-2007 03:53 AM

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if your looking for the fastest production car from each brand than yes a Rebel Machine is needed in your collection

markjohnson 04-16-2007 05:31 AM

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Excuse my ignorance on AMC products but is a Rebel Machine really faster than a '69 Hurst Rambler? I've just never paid much attetion to them. How fast are they?

71-LS6 04-16-2007 07:02 AM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
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So I have several cars from several different manufacturers. No real brand loyalty here; I just buy what's available and what I like. However, I've toyed with the idea of buying, building, and/or cloning my way to the ultimate collection of "musclecars." Figured I needed one from each manufacturer (only one Mopar and Ford/Merc b/c they use the same engines), and only intermediates (no ponycars). Here's what I came up with -

1. Pontiac: '69 or '70 RAIV GTO
2. Buick: '70 GS Stage 1
3. Olds: '70 442 W30
4. Mopar: '67-'70 B Body with a hemi
5. Ford: '67 Fairlane with 427 or '64 Thunderbolt
6. Chevy: '70 LS6 Chevelle

If I sold most of my cars I might be able to pull it off. Any thoughts? What did I leave out?

Scott

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Funny, but I've had the same thoughts;
69 trans AM
70 GSX
69 COPO camaro
67 fairlane or mustang fastback
69-71 BB vette
70-71 mopar e-body
68-70 AMX
70-71 W-30
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

rubbinisracing 04-16-2007 07:06 AM

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If you leave out pony cars you only have 1/2 of a collection!

Dave Rifkin 04-16-2007 03:31 PM

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Excuse my ignorance on AMC products but is a Rebel Machine really faster than a '69 Hurst Rambler? I've just never paid much attetion to them. How fast are they?

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I am not that familiar with AMC products but, I would think the S/C Rambler would be faster that The Machine but, due to the "no ponycars" stipulation, I don't think it fits in with the grouping of cars.

StriperSS 04-16-2007 04:49 PM

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They were both 14 second cars out of the box.

bulletpruf 04-16-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
You're right about the AMC's of course. I forgot about the Rebel Machine.

I prefer the intermediates to the ponycars, and not sure I could afford the top dog ponycars, because then I would need -

1. '70 Hemi Cuda (E bodies are EXPENSIVE!)
2. '70 Boss 429 Mustang (could do this as a clone)
3. '67 Cougar with 427 (hard to find an original one)
4. RAIV '69 Firebird (good luck finding one of these)
5. '69 ZL-1 Camaro (way too expensive for an original one)
6. '70 AMX (can still find these for reasonable prices)

However, no Buick or Olds ponycars, so they get left out. Also, I love midyear Vettes (had a '66 convt and a '66 425 hp 427 coupe w/knockoffs, sidepipes, 4 sp, 4.11s, etc) but don't really group them in with the ponycars.

Scott

442w30 04-16-2007 06:51 PM

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3. '67 Cougar with 427 (hard to find an original one)

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Actually, what you mean is a '68 GT-E. But the CJs are faster. In the GT-E, they are MUCH rarer than a 427. Regular GTs could get CJs, and they made about 250 of 'em.

Going back to your list . . .

1. Pontiac: '69 or '70 RAIV GTO <font color="red">I think the '69 is a better choice. The '70 weighs more and had a nudge down in compression. </font>
4. Mopar: '67-'70 B Body with a hemi <font color="red"> Why not a '71? </font>
5. Ford: '67 Fairlane with 427 or '64 Thunderbolt<font color="red"> The latter is a race car. And if a Fairlane, why not a '66? More special. </font>
6. Chevy: '70 LS6 Chevelle <font color="red"> Yeah, sure, that's the obvious one, but why not a COPO 427 car? </font>

bulletpruf 04-16-2007 07:31 PM

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3. '67 Cougar with 427 (hard to find an original one)

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Actually, what you mean is a '68 GT-E. But the CJs are faster. In the GT-E, they are MUCH rarer than a 427. Regular GTs could get CJs, and they made about 250 of 'em.

Going back to your list . . .

1. Pontiac: '69 or '70 RAIV GTO <font color="red">I think the '69 is a better choice. The '70 weighs more and had a nudge down in compression. </font>
4. Mopar: '67-'70 B Body with a hemi <font color="red"> Why not a '71? </font>
5. Ford: '67 Fairlane with 427 or '64 Thunderbolt<font color="red"> The latter is a race car. And if a Fairlane, why not a '66? More special. </font>
6. Chevy: '70 LS6 Chevelle <font color="red"> Yeah, sure, that's the obvious one, but why not a COPO 427 car? </font>

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Ok, did a little homework on the Cougar - GTE could be had with a 427 or 428 depending on when it was built. I'm still going with the 427, however.

Concur on the '69 GTO. I think it's a better looking car, too. Both of my Judges are RAIII, but I could slide a RAIV in either one. Heads aren't that difficult to find, but blocks are.

T-bolt is probably in a different category than the rest of the field, but have always wanted one. However, if I'm limited to 1 F'lane, it would be a '66 or a '67 with a 427.

A '69 COPO would be mighty fine, but hard to pass up an LS-6. Would also like to build one with a stock LS-7, just to see what it would have been like if Chevy had it as an option in '70.

I've got a '71 GTX with a 440, 4 sp, Dana, front and rear spoilers, black with a black gut. Pretty nice car as far as '71 B bodies go, and I think I could find a correct '71 hemi to drop in it, but I prefer 67s or a 68-69.

Scott

69hurstSC 04-16-2007 11:36 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
Rambler is a compact so it doesnt fit the criteria.

Fast67VelleN2O 04-18-2007 12:15 AM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
What about the 69 Hurst prepped AMX with the crossram?

69hurstSC 04-18-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
AMX = sports/compact. always debatable as to what catagory AMX's fall into.

AutoInsane 04-25-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
Here is without a doubt the greatest musclecar collection:

http://corvettes-musclecars.com/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi

gb70 04-25-2007 07:33 AM

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Here is without a doubt the greatest musclecar collection:

http://corvettes-musclecars.com/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi

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Now that's a collection of rare muscle! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

bulletpruf 04-25-2007 09:05 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
Wow! How many millions of $$$ would it take to put that together today? Closest I saw to that was a collection in Va of about 80 cars - all GTOs and Mopars (several hemi cars), with only a few Chevys, one Buick, and no Fords.

Scott

Paul D 04-26-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
Any ultimate collection would have to have some of the "big" cars that started it all. These cars still run away and hide from most of the intermediate muscle.
- '62 409
- '62/'63 Super Duty
- '63/'64 R-Codes
Just my humble unbiased opinion.

bulletpruf 04-26-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Ultimate Musclecar Collection?
 
I'd love to find a 62 with a 409. I missed out on a '62 before I left VA and passed on a '63, both with 409s.

I've been looking for a Super Duty Catalina for a while. Found a '63 that had a dealer installed 421 at one point, but the motor was long gone and the car wasn't too hot, either.

I'd love to have a '64 R code, but haven't ever found one that I could afford.

Scott


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