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this looks like a repop to me. am I wrong?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Chevr...104846047QQrdZ1

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Ground Up Restoration special... you're on the money.

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If thats a repop, whats a real one look like?

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from my junk collection... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

originals...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../afterUSA1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../2plates-1.jpg

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Wow, there's a big difference. $202.50 for a repop plate, I would be pissed.

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Just turn it over and look for the green, or pick it up and you can sure tell.

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Come to think of it... the plates in my second picture were sold to a member here a year ago or so...

The difference between the plates is like night and day... and if you need to, post a picture here before spending $200 on a $20 repop plate.

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this looks like a repop to me. am I wrong?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Chevr...104846047QQrdZ1

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Donnie,the easiest way to tell is to look at the screw holes. They are almost twice the size on the repop.

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This was sold by Jim Rohn, who frequents the boards here. Maybe he can chime in...

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A sucker born every second! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

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I communicated this thread to Jim Rohn of Phoenix and the following was his response........



"this was bought at Courtesy Chevrolet in Phoenix in 1977, the 1st year I moved here

Tim Blaylock (sp?) was the parts guy I bought it from, I think he is at Thorobred Chevrolet now

They had two types, the "disco" stars and stripes and this one

I bought both

both were shrink wrapped and both I still have (well, just the stars&stripes now)

I have had a slew of "do-gooders" telling me their opinions

some of the earlier versions I understand (from the do-gooders) were metal with a painted back (either white, green or blue, depends on who the "expert" is) and would rust when they got chips on the face

All of what I listed is factual as this was sold at a GM dealership 30 years ago.

Any other intrepretation/opinions of the facts are just that."

Jim Rohn says he bought THE EBAY plate in question in 1977.
I have no interest in any of this, other than my wanting to verify the honesty or integrity of the seller.

Thanks,

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I bought a similar plate about 30 years ago from the chevy dealer in Baldwin (Lyon Chevy). I think it was $5.00, it has the big slots for the bolts, I still have it.
I also have one with the paint on the back. I'll sell both for $202.50 with free shipping and Saran wrap. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif


(they have thirty plus years of road wear) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

I should have kept the Baldwin receipt, it would be worth more!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Yes, I also sent this guy an email and he told me I didn't know what I was talking about.
thats why I put up this post just to make sure I was right.

thanks everyone

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Yes, I also sent this guy an email and he told me I didn't know what I was talking about.
thats why I put up this post just to make sure I was right.

thanks everyone

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I believe his ad is factual based on his purchase at the dealer. Though not the same as the older plates shown by MosportGreen, are they not NOS if purchased from Chevrolet?

now here is some junk; http://cgi.ebay.com/Chevrolet-License-Pl...bayphotohosting
can you find the error? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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In a word, no. If I buy a made in Taiwan repro part through a Chevy dealership, its still a Taiwan repro part. I'm very surprised they even repro'd these in 1977, let alone sold them at Chevy dealerships...If anyone wants one like that I can get as many as you want in Carlisle next week for 5.00 a pop. FYI, NOS GM plates weren't shrink wrapped, the gold ones nor the red/white/blue ones, so both of the ones mentioned are repros. P.O.S. maybe, but not N.O.S.

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I'm very surprised they even repro'd these in 1977, let alone sold them at Chevy dealerships...

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif I can't tell you if it is repro'd or re popped, banged out in SingSing or cooked on a waffle iron in the staff lunch room, but I can say for sure it was sold at the Chevy dealer in 77 or early 78 at the latest.
It saddens me to think I've had that 4NJNK on a dozen cars over the last thirty years.

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Chris that plate is missing the Apostrophe S after America..

Today I can buy this that same $202 Ebay plate at my Chevrolet dealer $6.00
It is nothing more than a variation off the original vintage design and not an authentic Original Vintage period plate.
In short,it's a later knock off,albeit sold through a Chevrolet dealer.
To add to what others have stated,other easy knockoff giveaways are the fact that it has the Chevrolet Bowtie emblem and See Americas First slogans embossed.
The originals were flat there,not to mention it's showing the aftermarket makers mark on the bottom left corner.
To be fair,the seller did not state "Vintage" and he did post very clean,clear,close up pictures to show the buyer what he is actually getting.
NOS does not automatically mean 40 years old.
I would hold the buyer to that amount.

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thanks Rick, that is correct. what is the value of those original plates that traded hands here?

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REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I've been watching this one for the duration...well since the price took off anyway.. Somebody just graduated from the "School of Hard Knocks"..... Priceless... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif


Steve https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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I have been watching it also. What I noticed was the Chevy bowtie and "See America's First" on the PEBAY plate are raised. My NOS one in the file cabinet is not that way. How about the "characters" in the lower left? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

I guess vintage is relative now days isn't it. 1 day old....

Tough lesson for someone... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif


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Chris
1967 Yenko Stinger YS-199
Southeast of Disorder

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I would consider a cowl hood bought in 1977 to be NOS and one bought from the Chevy dealer yesterday, to be GM. Even though they may be identical in every way. (not saying they are, as I don't know) Why would it be different for a license plate?

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In general,I think most expect the term "NOS" to mean a part that has the same characteristics as the assembly line used,or at least authentic to the orginal design,and has long since been discontinued.
Because it stands for New Old Stock,it does not clarify how old an item actually is,or if it is still readily available.

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Because it stands for New Old Stock,it does not clarify how old an item actually is,or if it is still readily available.

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Much of the confusion with the term NOS is due to the old car hobby interpreting its meaning as "new old stock," which does not allow for the distinction to be made between factory parts that you can still buy, and factory parts that have been discontinued.

I'm still trying to find the reference for this, but the term NOS actually stands for "New Obsolete Stock," which refers to new factory items that are no longer being manufactured (i.e., obsolete). So, by this definition the new 70 Chevelle taillight lenses that you can still buy from GM are technically not NOS because they are not obsolete. Unfortunately, the NOS term is regularly applied to these parts which can still be ordered at any GM parts counter.

Describing a part as both New and Old offers little guideance for how to differentiate between various New factory parts. On the contrary, the terms New and Obsolete together make it much more clear.

NOS = New Obsolete Stock https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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NOM = New Original Motor https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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New Obsolete Stock is a term commonly heard when dealing Ford parts but rarely GM. I have askied this question many times to a few GM parts managers and most seem to fall into the catagory of Nos meaning new old stock
New- never installed or used
Old- manufatured years ago
Stock- original GM inventory stock of an original design
One individual used the obsolete version at a certain stage which his justification being.
The item is classed as old as long as it is still available in either the GM parts book or the slow mover list, once it is removed from both locations it is now New obsolete stock.
I liked his take on it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif.