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blueyenko 04-05-2007 01:15 AM

ZL1 block found
 
i have found a ZL1 block 3946052 it has a rod that has blown # 7 and #8 cylinder wall the sleevs have been removed on those 2 , and has a small crack on the lifter valley , part 3 is 3946052 can anyone tell me what i should pay for a block of this condition??

BARRY 04-05-2007 01:31 AM

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1500.00 TO 2500

427king 04-05-2007 01:37 AM

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Barry buy it for me at 1500.00 i give you a 10K finders fee... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

blueyenko 04-05-2007 01:41 AM

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now can it be repaired and who is can i have fix it its just the bare block

blueyenko 04-05-2007 01:42 AM

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so what your saying is around 3 g's for the block would be fair even needing all those repairs

blueyenko 04-05-2007 01:52 AM

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hey buddy i dont know much about the block and dont want to buy it if its going to cost a fortune any help or advice in this matter

COPO 04-05-2007 02:09 AM

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Is it a 69 dated block? A competent machine shop should have no problen repairing the block. I think $3K would be a great price for you.

blueyenko 04-05-2007 02:13 AM

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i guess i should get it than just not sure what it will cost to repair it , i guess i can also use it as a coffee table till than , just joking

427king 04-05-2007 02:18 AM

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Plan on thousands not hundreds to fix. There are many things that need to be looked at other than the physical repairs. Ive even had a block that physically looked good after repair but the cam geometry was off center and the bores not straight and it would eat cams and lifters one after the other. Couldnt get anyone that wanted to touch fixing it at any price,and those few guys were fixing blocks blown in half for other customers.

x Baldwin Motion 04-05-2007 02:22 AM

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for $3000.00 make sure they throw in a couple of good bottles of wine !!!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ngineTable.jpg

blueyenko 04-05-2007 02:34 AM

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after all of that now i really dont know what to do ??

Charley Lillard 04-05-2007 02:57 AM

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Blue... If it is just a over the counter block needing lots of repairs I wouldn't pay 3K for it. If it had the vin stamped down by the oil filter for one of the 69 ZL1's it would be worth more. Also check to see if it still has a build stamp on the front pad. It it went to a actual car it has more value than it just being a over the counter poorly constructed block.

427king 04-05-2007 02:59 AM

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Blue, sent a PM, i am looking for one. Will pay a finders fee or allow you to make a good profit. [ QUOTE ]
If it is just a over the counter block needing lots of repairs I wouldn't pay 3K for it

[/ QUOTE ] Charlie, you are aware that tachometers from sears and roebuck that look like chevy pieces are bringing 2K on ebay ??? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

ZL1#17 04-05-2007 03:10 AM

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I'll 2nd Kings remarks. I'm next in line. If King doesn't buy it I will.

blueyenko 04-05-2007 03:13 AM

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760-492-5033 is my #

blueyenko 04-05-2007 06:44 AM

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WELL I JUST GOT HOME I BOUGHT IT GUYS HAVE THE PISTONS A CAM SAHFT AS WELL JUST NEED TO RUN THE #'S ON THE PISTONS AND CAM

blueyenko 04-05-2007 07:07 AM

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its dated 3-6-69 and looks like block # 202

COPO 04-05-2007 07:18 AM

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nice date

blueyenko 04-05-2007 07:27 AM

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now the other bad part had to pay a little more than i hoped but still pretty happy with the price ,i tried 3,000 but he laughed a bit but we came to a fair price

427king 04-05-2007 08:03 AM

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Wow. It sounds like you found out its repairable and also what a fair price was even though you werent even sure if you should buy it 4 hours ago. When you sell it or decide to use it you may want to send the site a small donation for a quick education you wouldnt have gotten anywhere else.

blueyenko 04-05-2007 08:09 AM

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i dont think i'll sell it as of right now just got back home and i'm beat and my computer is slow at the shop i'd love to make a donation and much thanks to eveyone for there input , now i just need to figure out what and where it came from , it has mickey thompson stamped on the bottom side where the lip of the oil pan bolts to the block ????

427king 04-05-2007 08:14 AM

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I had one that had Mickey thompson stamped like that about 10 years ago or so. It had aj foyt also on the block, i think they were gifts from one to the other back in the day . thats my guess..

blueyenko 04-05-2007 08:22 AM

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what a awesome gift huh ! 427 are you chuck ?? i missed your calls i'm sorry if that was you calling i'll give you a buzz tomorrow if thats ok

blueyenko 04-06-2007 12:17 AM

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anybody know of any shop that might take the project on of repairing this block

SuperNovaSS 04-06-2007 12:42 AM

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It would help if you could post some pictures of the areas needing repairs. Where in CA are you? I know a guy here that is pretty good. He fixes aluminum intakes for me all the time and fixed a ZL1 for me in the past.


Jason

blueyenko 04-06-2007 01:12 AM

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NOT SURE HOW TO POST PICS ON THIS SITE ??

Xplantdad 04-06-2007 01:41 AM

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Try here... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show.../page/0#199732

jbsides 04-06-2007 07:52 AM

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Blue,

There used to be a machine shop that did high quality aluminum block repairs on Washington Blvd. in Whittier off the 605 He had a bunch of rare blocks he was just sitting on for years. Trying to remember the name of the place, but definitely remember the $8KUS to resleeve one cylinder (plus the repair) they did on one of Vic Edebrock prototype aluminum 427's about 10 years ago.

JB

SuperNovaSS 04-06-2007 08:00 AM

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8K????? Seems a little excessive!

shor 04-06-2007 08:15 AM

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i had my chevelle block re-sleeved for 100 dollars per cylinder. 800 bucks.
it is iron though, not aluminum

427king 04-06-2007 08:19 AM

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Im fixing 2 right now, fixing these blocks isnt like fixing a broken ear on an intake. With all the welding there is warpage, porosity problems with the aluminum and a host of other issues.Ive even seen a zl1 where the entire cam jouranls and main webbing had to be built completely upo with weld and re machined... 3500.00 to 6500.00 is not out of line. Anyone can do the repair wrong,its doing it right that costs the extra money. And thats assuming it isnt a block thats non repairable. I just fixed a block that had to have part of a block digitially recreated, amazing to see te before and after pics..

427freak 04-06-2007 08:36 AM

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Was it Taylor engines?

Hotrodpaul 04-06-2007 05:27 PM

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Having done quite a bit of Aluminum welding, the entire Block must be preheated (600 deg F) or so before welding. Aluminum has a fairly high coeffecient of expansion so when the weld cools, it contracts, causing stress and warpage. Also, preheating allows better penetration of the weld due to less heat draw into the block. The Aluminum alloy will make a difference as well, cleanliness, etc. Welding on die cast parts is difficult because of the higher silicon content and general imputities in the Aluminum.

It can be done with the right steps.

Paul

blueyenko 04-06-2007 07:00 PM

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well i recieved a set of piston domes along with a zl1 cam 9181. pistons are #3947886 are the pistons correct for this motor or are they l88 ??

blueyenko 04-06-2007 07:59 PM

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ANYONE NEEDING PICS DROP ME A LINE I'LL SEND A FEW SEND ME A PM WITH YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WITH ALL FOR ALL THERE KNOWLEDGE

blueyenko 04-07-2007 07:52 AM

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well i think the ZL1 is going to go up for sale , need to buy a 1968-72 corvette roadster so let see what happens taking offers

JChlupsa 04-08-2007 08:55 AM

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I take it this is the block

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/pts/308016868.html

427king 04-08-2007 09:08 AM

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Jeff, Im beginning to think you are a mole for the CIA on this site,with all your info and cutting edge technology https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

427king 04-08-2007 09:13 AM

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I believe you will need to price it if you wish to sell it here. Im a buyer, but dont want to be used as a high water mark for the next guy. When you are ready and serious so am i.

JChlupsa 04-08-2007 09:13 AM

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Cant take the credit for finding that listing, Someone on Team Camaro posted it and when I saw the M/T stamp it wasnt hard to put the two together.




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