70 LS6 MALIBU auto/bench Docs. 30,000 Mile Valu ??
 

Hey , I found a 70 MALIBU not SS true LS6 car with full documentation ....protecto/build sheets and all 30,000 mile car bought from orig. owner history . It has restoration started but not disassembled .... NOS front fenders and NOS qtrs. installed , but still have orig. nice pieces ....the car is complete breather and all . He wants $90,000 with it needing restoration and said it's like 1 of 13 ordered this way ??? He thinks it's like a $200,000 plus car completed . What's you guys opinions and anyone interested ....price is firm ! Thanks , Richard

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Never heard of an LS6 Malibu; I'd like to see the documentation. Sounds like a cool car either way.

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was not aware that you could even order such a car.. Id be leary of that car.. can ya post pics??

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Hey , it's the REAL deal ...I was turned onto car from a friend that knows its history .... no fake buildcrap ...believe orig. owner is still alive ..no pics yet , but I plan on going to see the car in person . What about the price ???????? Thanks , Richard

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I for one would be very interested in seeing some proof of this car. Not an impossiblilty but highly unlikely as I have seen stranger things come from Chevrolet. It would be a very neat car if it is in fact true. A copy of a build sheet would be a good start. Let me know if I can help.
Rick

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I think you'll need to provide some more info (like buildsheet copy Rick asks for) before many here will hazard a value guess. I'm a little gunshy when I here numbers like "1 of 13" are tossed out. Very knowledgable folks here that haven't ever heard of one let alone production quantity.

Hope it turns out well for you.

Dave

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There are no production facts that I have ever heard of so the 1 of 13 is someone making stuff up. I'm guessing the Malibu part is the car probably has non SS door panels which is quite common but I could see where someone would think that was special. Column shift auto and bench seat does not help the value so my value guess would be about 90K as a finished car. Color also will be a big value factor.

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Let's see the instrument panel.

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I have not talked to the owner yet ....just my friend and he said white ext. red interior . Thanks , Richard

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A big-block could be ordered in non-SS 70 Malibu, but you were limited to the 330hp 402 (LS3) engine. Just not possible to get an LS6 in a regular Malibu. No evidence of such a car in any GM literature, and if there were in fact multiple cars built, then something (either info or an actual car) would have surfaced by now. Chevrolet has no records breaking down engines by the models in which they were installed. If such a car existed, it would likely be a one-of-one, and likely worth a substantial amount. Never say never though, right? All you have to do is post a scan of the build sheet and all us skeptics will be shut up.

I suspect that the owner either has an SS454 car with the often-found Malibu door panel emblems, or an LS3-equipped 70 Malibu. Read all about the latter at my website.

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This sounds like a car I am currently looking for a buyer for.. white car, black vinyl top, red bench interior 70 LS-6 resto started, some docs, like MSO and POP.. but car is in TN and not believed to be a Malibu? weird ??? I'd also love to hear how this plays out

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Quite possibly urban myth,but wasn't there a thread a few years back about the A/F ordering base elco's with LS6 motors?.I seem to recall them being utilized for birdogging SR71's during takeoff/landing as the pilots could not see the wingtips.Apparentely they were the only chase vehicle that could keep up..maybe I was dreaming,lol

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...but wasn't there a thread a few years back about the A/F ordering base elco's with LS6 motors

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Those were SS454 cars not base El Camino's. The Air Force base my brother was stationed at used these cars and he and I have been looking for one for many years to no avail.

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This sounds like a car I am currently looking for a buyer for..

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That car is in fact a Super Sport LS-6 and not a base Malibu.
Rick

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He isn't passin no vin or nothin unless you wanna fly in and see to buy yourself ...it's for real . Thanks , Richard

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Well I guess that answered that question. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif
Rick

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LOL,as Rod would sing every picture tells a story don't it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Look what's making the rounds again
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Chev...1QQcmdZViewItem

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He isn't passin no vin or nothin unless you wanna fly in and see to buy yourself ...it's for real . Thanks , Richard

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With some of the most respected and knowledgable people in the hobby as members here, I'd say this is the place to make the car known. Oh well, it's nothing out of my pocket.
I wish you well with the sale.

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The seller is probably confused by the Malibu emblems on the door panel instead of "SS". This is extremely common on LS-6 cars as Charley mentioned. I would say maybe $80K-$90K fully restored and even then many would pass on the car being a column shift with a bench seat. The Seller is dreaming IMHO.

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Hey, watch the comments about bench seat/column shift cars! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Except black ones.....

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Except black ones.....

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Annie, oh Annie......they're making fun of your <font color="red">red </font> bench seat, column shift 454 Chevelle again........ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif
Rick

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Let me chime in My Next door neibor was Glenn Wilkinson Plant manager of the Baltimore Assembly Plant from 1968 to 1971, then Arlington plant manager from 1971 to 1976, previously Wilmington plant manager 65 thru 68. Among many of the conversations we had prior to His passing one was Quite interesting. His knowledge of these cars was staggering and the pictures of His Company cars incredible. He had the first LS-6 built as his demo as well as many Ram air IV GTO's . This is a Factual story in 1970 a Plant employee ordered a plain jane Malibu for himself, he walked the car thru the line adding all the LS-6 componets in a Malibu body. It was a correct number matching car that made it all the way to the final rolloff line where the car was being checked out for departure from the plant. Quite a commotion arose from this car as to how it got built, the Employee was fired and quite a few people got in serious trouble over this car. As I recall the car may have been Black or Green I will have to ask his son who is my age. Their family grew up arround these cars and Dad had every Hi Perf car that could be ordered from the sixtys out. There is one, it wasn't destroyed and the where it went is a Mystery but a REAL and TRUE story ,so there is ONE maybe still out there. Plain Jane ,no emblems ,steel wheels, flat hood ,the exhaust tips gave it away or it would have made it to the other side of the gate

Jim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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In '66 a friend of mine followed his SD396 Beaumont down the line in Oshawa and had it built with no emblems. It came to final inspection and the inspector would not let it out of the plant without having all the emblems installed. I eventually owned that very car. In '70 technically all SS cars were Malibus with the SS option package added. In '69 they could be 300 Deluxe as well with the SS package added. I got better insurance rates because our COPO Chevelle was a Malibu and not an SS car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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Richard

Help me out here cuz I'm confused in a serious way???? This is the same car I spoke of it isn't it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

and so, what's the deal, you looking to buy it or what? This just isn't the way the car is presented, so help me out here on what you are doing?

Mike

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He had the first LS-6 built as his demo as well as many Ram air IV GTO's.

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Was this a Baltimore car? If so, was it the "Pilot" car?

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This is a Factual story in 1970 a Plant employee ordered a plain jane Malibu for himself.........

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We have all heard the LS6/L89 or the fiberglass hood and fenders or the LS6 Monte Carlo or the 4 speed MC or the.........The point is, they are all stories until someone comes up with some type of proof. I too have heard some of these stories. Some are fairy tales while others seem to have some validity. We all know that they made no '67 SS427/425 Impalas. Last year I was given a story and some photos of a supposed 427/425 Impala. Though not enought to varify it beyond a shadow of a doubt, the owner was at least interested in finding the truth himself and willing to share information with certain people who could be trusted with it. He had some pretty interesting photos and background information. Hearsay is just that, hearsay. Not passing judgement on this car but when someone asks for help, the tools needed for that help should be supplied.


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There is one, it wasn't destroyed and the where it went is a Mystery but a REAL and TRUE story ,so there is ONE maybe still out there. Plain Jane ,no emblems ,steel wheels, flat hood ,the exhaust tips gave it away or it would have made it to the other side of the gate

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Jim is right. There are actually many of these one off cars that were built for testing and many were released to the public, some to inside GM people for testing, Monte Carlo convert, '65 Impala 4-door convert, Z-16 convert, etc, etc. Most were destroyed while some got out so ANYTHING is mpossible.
Rick

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- In the story of the factory built LS6 Plain-Jane Malibu, it sounds like the car was ordered built with an engine other than what was installed by the 'friendly co-workers' so wouldn't any build sheet show the 307 or whatever was originally intended?.

Here in the Oshawa GM plant through the sixties I've heard how they used to allow you to walk along the line with your ordered car as it was being built and options added by co-workers became too common a thing so GM had to put the hammer on guys doing this...is this what ended allowing guys to walk the line Keith?.

Back in the late 70's I was looking at a '63 BelAir and the retired GM fella who owned it told me how he had walked the line w/ the car being built and had additional options added by co-workers also proudly mentioned how extra seat bottom stuffing material was added to his car...the seats did even seem firmer than most too but I passed on the car as the firm seats didn't help the cars rear frame rust problem..

~ Pete
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Here in the Oshawa GM plant through the sixties I've heard how they used to allow you to walk along the line with your ordered car as it was being built and options added by co-workers became too common a thing so GM had to put the hammer on guys doing this...is this what ended allowing guys to walk the line Keith?.


~ Pete
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Pete,
They used to have that program at the Van Nuys plant-I ordered my first new car,got a TPW and watched it being built-79 T/A SE Starlight black..the highlight of my teen life at that point!

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Having grown up in Detroit, I know that some of the Ford and Chrysler plants allowed walk-alongs. The Ford Wixom plant, where my aunt worked, would let you know the date that your Lincoln was being built, so you could walk it down the line. My dad knew when his car was going to be delivered before the dealer did.
The problem that comes to my mind, and I'm certain that I will be corrected if I'm wrong, is that engines had to be mated with a VIN matched body, so unless it was a COPO, how would Tonawanda know the correct motor to ship if it wasn't an RPO?
Adding "options" like a stereo radio, or rear defogger, or the power this or that just meant that some other car would get stiffed of that equipment. Write it off as "factory error", or Union brotherhood . Happened all of the time, with the wrong color interior or center console missing, etc. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif
How would the engine assembly phase be talked into building a motor that the computers would have kicked out of the system for not being a compatable RPO, such as a non-SS 454? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Tonowanda (Flint etc) did not stamp Vins...
The assembly plant stamped engine and trans vins with the same gang holder after the two were mated but before they were installed in the chassis...

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Good info. but the orig. Post is what has me very concerned that something fishy is going on https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif

Richard you confirmed to me that this is the same car in same town in TN, the car I mentioned above.. so doubtful this small town has two LS-6 White with Red Bench automatics in it... that being said.. my friend who has asked me to find a buyer, has no knowledge of you, yet your post seems to elude to many false facts, ( possibly bad info given to you )price being one of them, Malibu status being another, and the seller's thoughts on value when finished.. and you indicate Price is Firm?? ALl FALSE!

who told you of this car? The owner who does not participate here is not happy about this post...It is a REAL LS-6 Chevelle, no build sheet, just a POP and MSO, and great untouched car with great previous owner history on a car that needs little to complete.. it's not priced crazy, nowhere near the price you mentioned.. let alone FIRM! So tell me what is your take in this? Just someone who heard bad info.?

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Get 'im Mike.

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Get 'im Mike.

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Rick you are losing it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Yep, definitely am. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Hey , I guess bad info and what exactly is the price then ? A buddy got info passed to him and this is what trickled down to me . I was just feelin my way around to see if this was worth pursuing or not ......evidently NOT if it stirs up this much stink over one ole LS6 which I was told FOR SURE was a MALIBU . I thought if it was indeed true ....this car would be extremely rare and maybe I could flip it to make the sale go and make myself some money also . I like buying and selling cars .....some are worth pursuing and some not .....this appears to be a NOT ......I really would like to know the TRUE price instead of what's been passed down and down and down to me ! Sorry to offend , but should not have offended anyone over trying to feel the market out especially with you experts . Thanks , Richard

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More Hype without documentation like so many others lately! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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More Hype without documentation like so many others lately! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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Well, the car isn't the hype that this post made it out to be.. but it is what I said.. a very nice survivor, all hard work done, in primer.. orig drivetrain never touched.. LS-6 Bench seat, Automatic, Wht car, black top, red interior.. all there.. POP and MSO and previous owner history, Rust Free southern car.

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Sorry to offend , but should not have offended anyone over trying to feel the market out especially with you experts . Thanks , Richard

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Your offense was making a claim of "the REAL deal" without first substantiating it. Although you were just passing along someone else's word, this is how all these bogus stories originate. And then the scammers and sheisters run with it. Just keepin' it real, driver https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Mike,

I wasn't referring to the car just the double secret, hush hush, no vin, no pics, but it's real, crap. I've just had it with all the chain jerking from guys with 3 posts. Whenever they're asked for docs. that are all excuses and eventually just run &amp; hide.

"Its better to be thought a fool that to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

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Car was priced to me tonight at 70K out of the blue by someone that has not seen this thread and doesn't frequent here. Supposed to be apart for paint.

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by someone that has not seen this thread and doesn't frequent here.

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