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Frankie, what was the 60' time on the run that JJ laid down the 13.87? Can you post a pic of the timeslip, and your 13.99 slip?

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I realized that Frankie's 13.99 run was against me! So, I pulled the timeslip. I wanted to know the 60' times on that run:

RT = .069
60' = 2.221
1/4 = 13.999
MPH = 100.61

That blows my theory that the 13's are unreachable with 2.2x 60' times!! I've had a best ever 60' of 2.175 - but still ran a 14.508, so I will have to search a little further down the track https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Marlin........How can you race that perfectly restored rare piece of American Muscle Car history......It should'nt ever leave the Garage.........LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif
You know what I'm referring to.....LOL again

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Yea, I know, I lay awake every night worrying about wether the rubber on my 1/4's will take a few bucks off the resale price https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif In my opinion, running it down the track adds value, it proves that the car can stay together - and run the number https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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How can you race that perfectly restored rare piece of American Muscle Car history......It should'nt ever leave the Garage.........

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I'll bet you're puttin' snow tires on the Gold Nova today, right? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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How can you race that perfectly restored rare piece of American Muscle Car history......It should'nt ever leave the Garage.........

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I'll bet you're puttin' snow tires on the Gold Nova today, right? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ouguysrock.gif

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Marlin, when are you going to make the trip up to Stanton for the Pure Stock Drags ???

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One of these years! It's a tough month though, and the SCR's take priority https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif Might have to make the June event instead.

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I've had a best ever 60' of 2.175 - but still ran a 14.508, so I will have to search a little further down the track https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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What was your trap speed?

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RT = .069
60' = 2.221
1/4 = 13.999
MPH = 100.61


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There's a 13.50 or so simply from picking up the 60'...

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Tommy K in NJ had a best 60' of 2.092 with his a/t deuce, https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif but ran a 14.446 @ 94.31 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

My best 60' of 2.175 awarded me a 14.508 @ 95.54 mph.
My best et is 14.252 @ 98.69.
My best mph is 98.92 with a 14.338 et and a 2.353 60'.

My best 60' in 3 years was this past year at SCR9 with a 2.227, but my et was still only 14.376 @ 97.70.

I'm not sure where to look for improvement into the 13's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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M,
At what RPM do you shift? Those LT-1s love Hi Rev's but most people don't like to let them go where they're happiest. Look at the HP curves on some of the articles published on these engines.
Can't say that I blame you; I'd be a little uncomfortable too, but they DO come alive well above 5.5K. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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I try to shift at 6k, however, it seems to take a long time to get up to 6k and my itchy shifter arm might be pulling the next gear b4 6k. I think it take's so long because I have a low launch rpm, 2000-2100 - the 2.175 was with slipping the clutch, but it stunk.

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Holy crap!! I just noticed this thread Marlin! Sorry to leave you hangin! I have not been reading as much as I would like to these days. I will dig the time slip out from the JJ run and post it.

Since my tach did not work when I owned my Deuce I did not use one! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif I would just hammer it untill I felt the motor coming apart! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Yea,...will take a few bucks off the resale price https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif In my opinion, running it down the track adds value, it proves that the car can stay together - and run the number https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Flipper https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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Flipper? Coming from.... a dealer? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif I've owned my deuce for over 10 years now - plus, I'm a swordfish, not a dolphin https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Frank,You drove the car hard but JJ drove it like he stole it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gifHe totally put on a driving show in your car.Not that you couldnt drive the car but I think practice makes perfect. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I didn't think that your name, your Deuce and "resale value" were allowed to be used in the same sentence?

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M: whatcha got going as far as your distributor? Where's your initial/total timing at, and when's it all in by?? You still runnin' a 4.10 gear??? Gardner exhaust????

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Marlin
When we did that "Killer COPO Shootout" for MRC, my Nova was doing a 2.3 60 foot, and still managed a 13.53 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif Howz that theory now????? Keep that sexy exhaust on for shows and put on a real exhaust for racing. There exhaust is second to none for shows, but you got a race car now boy! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif
Peter

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What, a 2.3? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif That blows that theory!

I'm running a Mallory unilite breakerless ignition, and I have approx. 38 total degrees all in by about 2500rpm. I have the stock 4.10 rear gears - and the complete Gardner exhaust system, including the resonators.

You guys think that mandrel bent pipes with some Dynomax's are worth a 1/2 second?

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I doubt it. That's putting a lot of faith in two pieces of pipe. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

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Come on Marlin. Listen to Pete! Put some pipes on and go steeper with your gearing and you will be living in the mid 13's! The pipes alone, may not be a full half second, but they are definately damming up the works. Greatest limiting factor! What carb was stock on those cars? What is the car running for revs going through the traps? I just saw a post on v8Buick where another Olds w-31 ran 14.0's. I believe that he is running 4.33 gearing. He is not done with that car by a long way. And I find it hard to believe that a Nova can't beat a slow boat Olds!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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I hear ya Rusty, but I'm trying to maintain a balance between keeping my car concourse stock and getting into the 13's! I can handle changing the exhaust, but I won't swap the 4.10's - this was the lowest gearset you could get in a Nova in '70, and appears that you needed the copo option to even get them. This car has it's complete, original, born-with, drivetrain in it, so I'm not planning to push it too hard, but would like to see the 13's.

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You've got a special car so I wouldn't want you to break anything, but try bumping up the timing a notch, richin up the fuel a bit and the scary part--Wind her out till you hear her scream before you shift---Just like Belair62 does on his dates--------One those K&N FILTER inserts might help you on top end with the extra fuel mixture-----

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Don't change a thing, just let JJ drive it... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Marlin........Here are some Ideas........LOL

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Ken

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That's what I started with https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Every time I hear about Yenko Deuce cars, I really do not conjure up the " Supercar " theme like the Camaros etc. 14's in the quarter does not scream Supercar. I know a lot of Muscle cars of the era ran similar times but were talkin " Supercar " right. Is it because of the LT1 or it's limited numbers that make it so?? I'm not trying to be a smartass here. Just that thses cars run like 340 Dusters etc. Hell I bought a GT mustang in 84 and with a few tweaks ( no410 gears ) ran 13.7. Educate me on these cars and why they are considerd in the " Supercar " family

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Kind of feeling silly even responding to an uneducated statement like the one that you made but to run 13's in a 1970 musclecar with skinny pizza cutter polyglass tires, exhaust manifolds, smog system, factory tuning, etc. is a pretty big feat. Try it sometime.

I had a 1970 Chevelle SS LS5 454 that I had L60 15 Mickey Thompsons on the back and headers and the best run I had with it was 13.9's. To do that with a "small block" is pretty impressive IMO.

To say that a Deuce is not a supercar......I won't even go there. I can think of at least 10 different factory "big blocks" that little Nova would smoke.

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We've been down this road several times. The conclusion is simple; the Yenko Deuce is a SuperCar because it has a hi-performance COPO vs. an RPO.

The '68 L78/TH400 COPO combo became an RPO the following year, the '69 COPO combo's were available as an RPO on other models (Impala for eg;), as was the '70 COPO Nova combo. So, combine the Hi-Perf. COPO with the limited production on certain models = a SuperCar. The LS6 Chevelle is usually the discussion model, and it's powerplant is certainly impressive, but it's an RPO not a COPO so it's outside the general definition.

The 1/4 mile times have nothing to do with the classification, and guys like me and Frankie should not be used as the barometer of the combination's potential.

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the Yenko Deuce is a SuperCar because it has a hi-performance COPO vs. an RPO.

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif Plus, if you've ever had a ride in, or DRIVEN one of these little monsters, you won't argue with the designation.

(And I say "Little" with ALL due respect. Everyone knows I love these cars!)

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Thank Yoy Marlin for that "educated " answer. Hvychev. I think you need to re-read my post. I never said it was Not a Supercar. I asked why it's considered one and to educate me on it and everyones thoughts on this. Sorry you feel " Silly " answering. I think you should read Marlins answer as to what he thinks a Supercar is. That being said it still looks like the Deuces are 14 sec cars for the most part without " pipes " and steep gears and a very talented driver which Frankie sounds like he is. It still is a quick little car no matter how you slice it and perhaps a " Supercar " under Marlins definition. Thanks for the answers.

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Actually.... the only deuce that has been raced by a good driver is COPO Pete's silver one, driven by none other than JJ himself! Pete's silver copo nova has run 13.2x's, without special pipes, and the stock 4.10 gear. I remember the MCR article where they threw on a set of drag radials and the copo nova clicked off a 12.9x https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif So, with a competent driver, and some tuning, these copo novas are actually quite impressive.

If you want to talk 'silly'.... I passed up two '69 Yenko Novas because I wanted one with a COPO drivetrain vs. a dealer installed 427 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif Oh well.... I love my Yenko Deuce, even if it's only a 14.2 car with my rookie butt https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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If you want to talk 'silly'.... I passed up two '69 Yenko Novas because I wanted one with a COPO drivetrain vs. a dealer installed 427 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Sorry M the first thing I thought of was one of Red's quotes from That 70's Show....."Dumbass"...LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Sometimes you have to hold your ground...You have a very nice Yenko.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif


Steve https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Well marlin I think thats what it's all about Enjoying what you have. 14.2 is still moving pretty well. Back when i was 19 and took my L78 to the track for the first time I ran in the 14's Pretty lame. When I learned how to drive with some re-cap ( yes re-cap ) slicks and Appliance headers I went in the 12's. AS I said in my original post In have a GT Mustang tht runs in the mid 13's without too much trouble and It's just FUN........Geoff

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The deuce with headers and slicks would be well into the twelves as well, pretty stout for a 350 car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

The SuperCar moniker is more about ordering hi-perf combinations via the COPO, and dealer installed stuff as opposed to 1/4 mile stats - keep in mind that Yenko Stingers are considered SuperCars, and they would probably wouldn't impress anyone with their 1/4 mile et's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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- keep in mind that Yenko Stingers are considered SuperCars, and they would probably wouldn't impress anyone with their 1/4 mile et's

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I hope to change that, with a '71 "Stinger"...

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
Willing to share the powerplant of choice?
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4-cylinder, of course! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif