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scuncio 10-03-2006 04:52 AM

Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
On Ebay, no reserve - maybe someone here needs these rare parts. I will donate a portion of the closing price to Yenko.net if the high bidder is a SYC member. Thanks!
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZscuncio

camaromb 10-04-2006 04:56 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Based on original pulleys I have and comparing to repro pulleys I believe your pulley is a reproduction. The reproductions from years ago were very close but there are still differences from the original. Potential buyers should be aware.
Mark

scuncio 10-04-2006 05:18 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Mark, I sent you an email earlier about your clarifications. As I said, I would be extremely surprised if this is a reproduction and would like to discuss details further.

Mr70 10-04-2006 05:25 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Mark
I wouldn't call it a reproduction,but I wouldn't call it an authentic 1969 assembly line pulley either.
I believe that is a later assembly line & over the counter design pulley,(mid to late 70's),formed from different tooling then the earlier 1969 assembly line pulley.
That pump bracket is early 1970's & up..
Still a nice group of parts.

Pacecarjeff 10-04-2006 05:27 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
The real difference is the thickness and offset of the metal.
Easy to tell when you have it in your hand.
Got a picture from the side?

The pump is 1973, so that pulley has not always been on that pump.

Mr70 10-04-2006 05:58 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
I read that pump date as the 330th day of 1974,but untypically missing it's shift & plant code.

Belair62 10-04-2006 06:01 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Tony wouldn't knowingly misrepresent anything. Once you guys figure it out let us know.

Hotrodpaul 10-04-2006 06:53 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
This is an original 458DA pulley. Notice the ring around the face about 1/2" from the OD. Also, the P/N is stamped from the front side and you can see the outline from the stamping tool or die. I also have several repo's and they do not have this ring or outline from the stamping die. Otherwise they look very good.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...6/DSCN4938.jpg

Paul

Pacecarjeff 10-04-2006 04:10 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
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I read that pump date as the 330th day of 1974,but untypically missing it's shift & plant code.

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No we were both wrong - 1970 pump.

033 - 0 - 1S
Day of year - year - saginaw plant

The best way to tell a repro pulley, is from the side,
But I do see what you mean about the line (never noticed that) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...184DCP0111.JPG

Mr70 10-04-2006 04:40 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
033 0 1S-Good call Jeff.
I see that now and that makes more sense.
I don't think this is at all a question about Tony misrepresenting anything.
I see this as a group of board members discussing and sharing openly. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Belair62 10-04-2006 05:08 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Zacly

scuncio 10-04-2006 08:09 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Thanks to everyone for their input, and Mark for his follow-up email. I will take another pic of the pulley when I get home from work tonight. I am obviously not out to deceive anyone here. Thanks - Tony

SS427 10-04-2006 08:39 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Now that is what this is all about. An honest and educated input regarding someones property for sale and a positive response by the seller in the end. That's the way they should go. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Rick

Charley Lillard 10-04-2006 10:34 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
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Here is a old crusty one I have.. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/227029-9-25-06001.jpg

Charley Lillard 10-04-2006 10:36 PM

ebay pulley and my pulley
 
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part # https://www.yenko.net/attachments/227030-9-25-06002.jpg https://www.yenko.net/attachments/227030-90_3.jpg

Charley Lillard 10-04-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
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closer detail https://www.yenko.net/attachments/227031-9-25-06003.jpg

scuncio 10-05-2006 05:31 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Just got home...I'll be damned if those numbers don't look different than Charley's and Paul's. Can I say conclusively whether this is a really old repro part or a service replacement GM part? I know the guy whose car this came from relatively well, and it's been this way since he bought it in 1994. Thanks again for all the input so far. I'll post the update in the Ebay auction.

Charley Lillard 10-07-2006 01:25 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Scuncio.. If you stripped the paint off yours we might be able to see it better. I can barely see the ring around your part #. The repos I have seen have had a part # or logo ground off and then filled and painted over.

Pacecarjeff 10-07-2006 04:35 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Here is a better picture of an original: http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...0609060001.jpg

WILMASBOYL78 10-07-2006 06:08 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
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Now that is what this is all about. An honest and educated input regarding someones property for sale and a positive response by the seller in the end. That's the way they should go. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Rick

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You guys are making me get all choked up....all this honesty and fair play may damage the hobby!

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Steve Drueck 10-07-2006 09:13 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
We stamped a lot of those smog pulleys years ago and sold them (as repro) although it was actually a GM part (Cadillac) that we stamped. Long discontinued, but it was a twin to the original 458 pulley. I'm sure a lot of folks re-sold them as "real" ones. Steve D&R Classic Automotive

Pacecarjeff 10-07-2006 09:47 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Hey Steve, Looking forward to seeing you again at Daytona.


I have a few of the Cadillac Deep grove pulleys here.
They are just slightly smaller in diameter then the 458's.
Can't really tell unless they are side by side.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Steve Drueck 10-07-2006 11:14 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Jeff can I have the BB Pace Car back I sold you restored for $8,000 I am missing it. See you at Daytona!

Pacecarjeff 10-07-2006 11:56 PM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
No problem, just climb into your time machine, and get back to 1980.
I'll trade you for the ZL1. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

scuncio 10-11-2006 12:43 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
Hey Charley, for the record I can't find any evidence of an old part number filled and ground off. Looks like the high bidder is backing out (claims he didn't read the description!) so I may throw the pulley in the blast cabinet and have a look.

427king 10-11-2006 01:13 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
I will pay you my bid price. Send a pm if you can.

SuperNovaSS 10-11-2006 07:46 AM

Re: Ebay: 3932458 Pulley, NOS 302 Camaro Carb
 
So you are orangecountychopper?


Jason


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