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Thought I would share some info on a project I started today and then update as we progress. This is a 1970 L78 TH400 SS Nova....32,000 original miles..was raced early on and has 4.56 gears, slapper bars, trans. cooler, Accel ignition, old Sun tach, etc. The car is a real time capsule and is very solid..I can't find any rust..driveline is original with 3.55 code axle, CTY vin engine and CW hi-po trans. Plan on just cleaning things up and servicing brakes, steering,hoses/belts, fluids etc. for street use. I am also going to use existing parts from the stockpile to make a few changes: headers, Ansen valve covers, 163 and 850 Holley, original distibutor, wheels and tires......gonna try to use as much stuff as I can without buying anything (that'll be a switch) swapping in a better bench seat, will get gauges organized and maybe put in a vintage 8-track. No cosmetics to paint or trim other than clean/polish...it will be ugly, but fast! Planning on bringing it to the Nova Nats in July to have some fun with.

Do you love me more now, Sammy???

Stay tuned, wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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another photo..

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another...

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deluxe interior... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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last one...dig those crazy stickers!!

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tw, If you day two that car, you;ll make the hit list. with sammy. Maybe he;ll sit with us at the nationals???? bbbenny https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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Tom, that thing is so cool it hurts!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

I love those ingogneto sleepers. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Eric

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif The trunk is perfect. Tom, I am proud of you. You have seen the light. And about being ugly, take that car when you are done, along with your favorite restored nova to York or the Nova nationals and take note on which car gets the most attention. Also which car is MORE fun! Must be some good stuff in the drinking water in those NY hills lately. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Now for BBBenny's bomb....should have let Schonye deliver it turn key so Benny don't mess it up with the smog pump and the 14 inch baby tires. Might as well put single exhaust on that bad boy Benny! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Tom for President of the day-2 club. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Sammy, I just remembered I have some McCreary L60 x 14 white letter tires from the day....and some old airshocks..get the picture??????? hey, this is starting to be fun...

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif Hold on Tom, I am driving up! Hope M doesn't here about all this sinful stuff you are doing? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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Bring your timing light!!

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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I have a great old Dixco lite and tach and dwell meter. They work great! Have a bed for me?

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Sammy, you can have Benny's room..Karen calls it the Lincoln bedroom..reserved for traveling dignitaries and old drag racers...

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Cool stuff on day one of "the project"..

Found original paper tag on brake booster hose..
Remnants of build sheet tape on pass. side firewall..
Engine date stamp T1218 CTY with VIN..
5 blade fan with TW1 stamped on blade..how did Chevy know?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
The fan has the 8 hole pattern...??? Allen? Sully??
Water pump appears to be original..early date B 26 9...
BB a/t rad intact..
Original L78 valve covers..they will be replated and installed on another member of the family..
Plenty of grease, antifreeze, dirt, and tranny fluid...

Lot's of fun..more to follow

Watch out Sammy, the black beast is coming!
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wilma
Deep groove fan pulley ends 631AO

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You GO Tom! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Great find...can I come and play with it? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Interesting date on that waterpump if it's the original..February 69.
I would imagine an #065?
Is the Radiator still holding the Prefix tag of ZE.
The Deepgroove Fan pulley should be part #3976060AP,and worth it's weight in gold.That #631AO is a NON Deepgroove 1971-74 base pulley.
Original engine..original driveline..deluxe interior..Original paint...Valve Covers w/drippers,..booster tag...5 bladed fan,etc.
I understand your day two obsession Tom,but I have to play Devils advocate here and ask,"What did this Time Capsule ever do to you?"
Go pick on a different one. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Rick, you are the detective and the man with the numbers...went out and pulled the crank pulley it ends 666AO so I guess they are both wrong. Sorry I don't know these numbers like I should..but that's what you guys are good at. 065 pump..no tag on rad..looks like a 3 core.I have another original th400 unit at the shop...will compare. Took a closer look at front of car..it may have been hit once or lost a water pump that took out fan and radiator. That would explain service replacement fan. Non-original by-pass hose/clamps on pump. Also noticed screws holding grill on instead of rivets..??? someone has been there before. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif well I never said it was a virgin...as for why I'm picking on it, why not? I have another 396 motor that I will be building this year to put in it's place and save the VIN motor..not worried about braking the trans or rear. If anyone has some deep groove pulleys they want to donate, send me a PM and I will forward ship to https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Thanks for the help, keep it coming..

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Are you ready to come and meet Pete? Just finished a nasty LS6 motor for my buddies 70 chevelle. That will run real good on the street.

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Cool car, love the black Novas https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

I'm not surprised that you would find some different parts on the nose of the engine, as it appears that something must have gone through the grill at some point - the small block core support and holdown are some clues. If you have screws holding the grill stiffener to the grill, then someone put an NOS grill on there at some time bec/ the NOS ones don't come with the stiffener attached.

Day 2 it all ya want, the Day 1 cars will still blow it's doors off https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif We still can't get Sammy to put up his day 2 at the strip, let's see some numbers dude! (How's that for a challenge https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif )

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Well, here's the latest update on "the project". I definately think this car had some work done on the front end. Saw some GM parts labels on the 2 front bumpers brackets, couldn't read. Found a parts label on center support behind grill that comes up by the hood latch #3938635. Saw the word ACE on the inside of the front bumper??..now for some technical info:

Brake Booster Tag 342(front) 920(back)
Rear Stamp CBT 1028 G1 E
Trans Tag C70W 276
70 CW 1424
The tag is mint..it was covered with some oil and grease that protected it

engine T1218 CTY with VIN cowl tag 3rd week of jan/70
732 19 19 A

build sheet was in rear seat..not much on it though..body number matches cowl tag..trim and paint match.. #1 box FLT #2 box ZJ1 #3 box ZL3 and that's it....

Starter..had a Delco Remy Re-manufactured label
1108430 4F26 1

found a wire on drivers side near washer bottle with a connector that looks like it is for the Low Washer Fluid Indicator light..don't know if this connector is on all cars or just those that ordered the Aux. Lighting???

Front disc brake calipers look original with the little blue plastic bleeder covers

yellow traction bars on back with some black paint sprayed on them..probably vintage Lakewoods

underside is incredible..very solid with just a light film of surface rust..looks like a little root-rot in pass side frt fender at the very bottom..typical Nova..

battery tray was shot..rust holes, but no problem underneath it.

everything is stripped down under the hood..next step is to clean and degrease engine bay and underside.

original style spiral shocks on front with factory labels
original riveted ball joints..rest of suspension looks factory.

hope to have some photos tomorrow to post. Thanks for watching..

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Hi Tom, Everything looks good on your end.But not painting the car it will even look closer to the ealr 70's. Good choice! BTW Sometimes I can't figure out why Marlin hammers me so much about this day-2 stuff. I know we go back and forth but I never bug him about racing or anything like that. Sometimes he seems just not to quit. I don't like the day-2 look just to be able to beat somebody that has a pure stock car. I just like that era. Don't know where he is coming from somedays. I am just having fun but I think he means some of these statements. I am not the only guy that likes day-2 stuff. Don't always know how to take him. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Thanks for listning. Sam

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Sammy, this hobby is about diversity and having good time. If everybody liked the same thing, what fun would it be.. He's just havin' some fun with ya...don't let it throw you. Stay calm, don't worry, be happy.... and shift like hell!!

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

ps. Does Vera know you spend all this time on line chatting with your gearhead boy friends???? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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I like Day-2 TastyKakes.
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Day one and day two are both cool. Enjoying them either way is fun too. Awesome find!

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Ya he is always pickin on me. I guess I will have to get of my lazy but and at least tune her up. Never know what will happen or who you will meet on the highway. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif Lansdale is coming up in June. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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sam, check your spelling!!!!! lets get this race setup. do we have to get ahold of the pinks people.i see it already national tv. to have this small block shoot out?????? bbbenny

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Borrowed a pressure washer today and hosed her down...took a few photos but they didn't come out to well. I am signing up for the Greg Roberts camera class asap!!

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

BB heater hose connection and special clip on valve cover for spark plug wire...

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Someone installed those crazy spring savers....original spiral shock with tag

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original disc brake caliper with blue bleeder cap...also riveted balljoints

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last one..dash with vintage Sun tach..clock is 32,862!

thanks, wilma

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My car is done! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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You need new tires already !!!!!!!!

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wilma, i see a DAY two car, coming on strong. but what is wrong with that? sam whats your opinon on this? please be carful with your comments!!!!!bbbenny

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funny story...a guy moves one of my cars a couple weeks ago to a shop for conversion work while I was at the swap meet...we are riding down to pick up the cars a few days later and he says hey your car runs really good..I say yea it does run out ok, he says..only thing is you have some "maybe pops now"...wtf is a maybe pop I am thinking..so I ask what is a maybe pop...he says well your rear tires may pop at any moment...guess there was traction issues racing the other car to the shop...I say..OH...do they at least hold air??? he says not sure, we dropped them off and left...uuuhhhh ok. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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And I suppose those tire marks were already there when you two drove up??? Uhh, yes officer, as a matter of fact they were!

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif The trunk is perfect. Tom, I am proud of you. You have seen the light. And about being ugly, take that car when you are done, along with your favorite restored nova to York or the Nova nationals and take note on which car gets the most attention. Also which car is MORE fun! Must be some good stuff in the drinking water in those NY hills lately. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Now for BBBenny's bomb....should have let Schonye deliver it turn key so Benny don't mess it up with the smog pump and the 14 inch baby tires. Might as well put single exhaust on that bad boy Benny! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Tom for President of the day-2 club. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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I'm not pickin on ya Sammy, just trying to convince ya that the Day1 look is not all that bad - and that a Day1 car can run with the Day2 stuff! Just tryin to get you to run your car at the 'grove or E-town, or an SCR - show me what this day2 stuff can do https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

I won't beat up the Day2 look if you won't beat up the Day1 look https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Never again will I mention it. Besides how day-2 is my car? You saw it. A set of headers and some Lakewoods. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Don't forget the cheesteak wrappers in the back seat. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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And I suppose those tire marks were already there when you two drove up??? Uhh, yes officer, as a matter of fact they were!

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Actually they were. My tires can't make marks that thin. Mine makes marks like these. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif (Challenger is a different story https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif )

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Never again will I mention it. Besides how day-2 is my car? You saw it. A set of headers and some Lakewoods. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Your car looks cool, let's go racing https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Then, some of these https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif